Drew Ruana is back on the podcast and is joined by his friend Cameron Hörst, who is one of the best young sport climbers in the country. We talked about lessons they’ve each learned from recent sends, what it was like growing up as kid crushers, training for bouldering vs. sport climbing, how to stay strong while projecting, Drew’s thoughts on climbing V18, and Cam’s thoughts on climbing 5.15c.
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Nuggets:
0:06:31 – What they climbed on today
0:07:59 – Drew’s skin injury in Bishop back in 2020
0:09:38 – Cam’s bouldering trip to CO, and plans to do more bouldering
0:12:04 – Why Drew pivoted to bouldering
0:14:38 – Why ‘The Ice Knife’ and ‘Dire Wolf’ stand out to Drew
0:18:58 – How Drew balances hard projects with quick ticks, and trying ‘Megatron’ V17 for 70+ days
0:23:57 – Cam’s experiences climbing ‘Bone Tomahawk’ 15a and ‘Resisting Arrest’ 14d
0:27:43 – Training mode for Big Claw 14d
0:30:00 – Patron question from Tristan: For Drew, what are 1-3 things you’ve learned from doing so many hard boulders in CO?
0:34:23 – What keeps the fire burning for Drew, and the drug rush of sending a new hard boulder
0:36:36 – How many V16s are there in the world?
0:37:22 – Drew’s thoughts on switching back to sport climbing, and how many 5.15s there are in the US
0:41:53 – The Grand Illusion
0:44:15 – Taking a gap year to try to climb 5.15, and what Cam learned from climbing with Joe Kinder and doing ‘Bone Tomahawk’
0:49:57 – Patron question from Howard: Cam, what position did you play in high school football? Did any skills from football transfer to climbing?
0:52:35 – Having a team (or climbing partner) who builds you up
0:54:59 – Wes Schweitzer (NFL offensive lineman)
1:00:23 – Patron question from Xander: Cam, do you still play football? Did you train for climbing during football season?
1:03:58 – How team sports helped make Cam a well-rounded athlete, and being exposed to lots of different things growing up
1:07:13 – Drew and Cam’s thoughts on their different upbringings as kid climbers
1:13:50 – Patron question from Eli: What did they love/hate about being kid crushers? What do they appreciate about how their parents handled their climbing lives?
1:19:02 – Patron question from Christoph: Cam, what was it like having a famous coach as a dad? And Cam’s plans to carry the torch
1:23:48 – Patron question from Xander: How do you balance training and sending? Do you cycle between training and sending, or can both happen concurrently? (Drew’s bench press and pull-up numbers)
1:29:22 – Drew’s thoughts on spending the last three years only focused on outdoor bouldering
1:33:14 – Cam’s thoughts on the difference between training for bouldering vs. sport climbers, and how he balances training and performance cycles
1:39:36 – Drew’s thoughts on maintaining his aerobic base when focusing on bouldering
1:46:25 – Patron question from Bryce: I’m about to hit the road for a year. Should I mix in training to keep my strength up?
1:49:52 – The guys give me their recommendations for keeping my strength up on a three-month sport climbing trip
1:54:28 – Cam’s goal to climb 5.15b (9b), what it would take for him to climb 15c (9b+), and plans for his career
2:00:35 – Drew’s thoughts on what it will take for him to climb V18
2:06:58 – Drew’s recent FA of Distortion V16, and plans to climb more V16s
2:12:13 – Cam’s plans for the Fin Cave
2:13:24 – Drew’s thoughts on his career
2:17:33 – Flow state
2:19:39 – Who Cam is most impressed by in climbing
2:21:31 – Who Drew is most impressed by in climbing
EP 159: Tom Randall & Sam Van Boxtel — Why YouTube is the Future of Climbing Media, and How Much $$ YouTubers Make
EP 158: Fundamentals — How to Improve Your Technique
Follow-Up: Tim Emmett — Lessons From 80+ Days on Era Vella 9a, and Changing His Diet to Thrive at Age 48 (Teaser)
EP 157: Jeannie Wall — Getting Stronger in Her 50s, the Value of Doing Challenging Things, and Slowing Down to Go Fast
EP 156: Fundamentals — How to Go on a Sport Climbing Trip
EP 155: Caleb Robinson — Reaching V13 in Four Years, Biggest Lessons From Competitive Soccer, and the Power of Consistency
Follow-Up: Aidan Roberts — Sending Alphane, Training for V18 Projects, and Listener Q&A (Teaser)
Announcing YouTube + Win a Training Bundle!
EP 154: Fundamentals — How to Go on a Bouldering Trip
EP 153: Ollie Torr — The Secret to Finger Strength, How to Climb Like Aidan Roberts, and Staying on the Bus
Follow-Up: Jordan Cannon — Sending ‘Wet Lycra Nightmare’ on the Leaning Tower (Teaser)
EP 152: Fundamentals — How to Go on a Climbing Trip
Announcing Fundamentals!
EP 151: Anna Hazelnutt — Toe Training for the World’s Hardest Slabs, and Giving Others Permission to Be Real
Follow-Up: Tyler Nelson — Cutting Edge Finger Training Ideas, and the Difference Between Active Recruitment vs. Passive Tension (Teaser)
EP 150: Luke Mehall — How Climbing Gave Him His Life, Creating The Climbing Zine, and Sustaining Creative Work
EP 149: Steven on Kegels and Coffee — We Are Not Robots, As It Turns Out
EP 148: Alan Watts (Repost) — A Life at Smith Rock, Eating Every Other Day, and Meeting Adam Ondra
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