I chat to Robert Duigan (Marhobane), a political commentator, researcher and writer. We discuss his latest thoughts on what rule of law means, Transformationism, constitutionalism, Professor Koos Malan's writing on these subjects, the Lindiwe Sisulu saga, the question of rule of law in South Africa through the lenses of "is", "can" and "ought", judicial independence, and more.
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