I just bought a copy of The Story Grid book after listening to a few of these episodes. Podcast just pulled me in until I cracked and needed to learn at my own pace. Very good podcast!!!

A quote at 14:17 from the post-enlightenment thinking that leaves one incredulous, "wisdom is knowing you really don't know anything." Really? Do you know that? Well there you go now you're on the path to clear thinking that may lead to wisdom - hopefully.

Amazing talk! I'm going to go do my homework.