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This is such a good episode. I'm living in Australia but originally from New Zealand. Both of these countries experienced brutal colonisation in relatively modern history; this podcast helped me explore narratives around these histories.
We know whatβs what. Look at where we are. What have we accomplished? Generations of talk and struggle and here we are. At civilisational scale of human ecology, why believe, at this point, that our ideas can work. The books have changed what? What are we doing