John Driver is an award-winning writer and collaborator of more than twenty-five books. In our conversation, we explore how understanding himself through the lens of the counterphobic Six has impacted his relationships with others, his work in ministry, and his writing.
We also discuss his new book, Not So Black and White: An invitation to honest conversations about race and faith. He shares how being a counterphobic Six impacted the writing of his book, why it’s so important to open the doors to honest and engaging conversations about race and faith, and touches on whether the Enneagram can help inform the conversation around racism.
A former teacher with a history degree from the University of Tennessee, John lives near Nashville with his wife, Laura, and their daughter, Sadie. He serves as the executive and teaching pastor at The Church at Pleasant Grove and hosts the weekly podcast Talk About That.
Seven Core Challenges of Leadership, feat. Carey Nieuwhof (Enneagram 8) [S02-049]
There's Power in Peace, feat. Lysa Terkeurst (Enneagram 9) [S02-048]
Leveraging Differences to Motivate Your Team with the Enneagram, Boosterthon's feat. Chris Carneal and Stan Holcombe (Enneagram 7 and 6) [S02-047]
Michael Hyatt, Your Leadership Mentor and the Enneagram (Enneagram 3) [S02-046]
Summer Vacation and the Enneagram with Ian Morgan Cron [S02-045]
Balancing Your Centers of Intelligence, feat. Beatrice Chestnut [S02-044]
Moving Toward Wholeness, part 2 feat. Drew and Ellie Holcomb (Enneagram 8 and 7) [S02-043]
Moving Toward Wholeness, feat. Drew and Ellie Holcomb (Enneagram 8 and 7) [S02-042]
BONUS REPLAY: Beatrice Chestnut, An Enneagram Two’s Journey Toward Finding Real Love [S02-041]
Trusting Your Gut as an Enneagram Two, feat. J.J. Peterson (Enneagram Two)
Transforming Relationships with the Enneagram, feat. Jeremy and Audrey Roloff (Enneagram 9 and 8) [S02-039]
Balancing Intellect with Emotion, feat. Dan Haseltine (Enneagram 5) [S02-038]
Facing Anxiety and Depression with the Enneagram, feat. Scott Sauls (Enneagram 3) [S02-037]
The Enneagram and The Next Right Thing, feat. Emily P. Freeman (Enneagram 4) [S02-036]
Addiction and Recovery with the Enneagram, feat. Nate Larkin and David Hampton [S02-035]
Top 25 Enneagram Resources [S02-034]
Honoring Our Differences, feat. Rabbi Evan Moffic (Enneagram 3) [S02-033]
Is Your Story True? Exploring Narrative through the Enneagram
Part 2: How the Enneagram Impacts Emotional Intelligence and Leadership, with Scott Allender [S02-031]
How the Enneagram Impacts Emotional Intelligence and Leadership, pt. 1 with Scott Allender [S02-030]
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