Jerry Wise, MA, MS, CLC is a relationship expert, self-specialist, life coach. He as been helping people for 40 years. He was a marriage and family therapist, pastoral counselor, pastor, speaker, chemical dependency counselor, executive coach, and organization coach. jerrywise5@gmail.com | jerrywiserelationshipsystems.com | (317) 919-6264 | Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/jerry-wise/support