Kelefa Sanneh, author of Major Labels, joins us to discuss his new book (6:23), setting the record straight on "Rockism" (14:31), 1996 rap (23:04), Verzuz ideas (34:30), an update on Eleven Madison Park (37:45), pandemic dining (50:11), the Process in Philly (1:04:23), tanking and joyfulness (1:14:35), critical protectionism (1:21:44), NBA height limits (1:25:08).
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