Patterns of Being with Jonathan Pageau | EMP Podcast 96

👉 Want to join us on Zoom for a LIVE airing of an EMP Podcast? https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/opt-podcast/?utm_medium=organic_social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast_promotion Once a month, we’ll be holding live conversations that YOU can be a part of! With EMP Podcast Plus, you’ll get a members-only “backstage pass” and exclusive access to: 🔴 Monthly LIVE Zoom calls with Rafe Kelley & EMP Podcast guests 🎙 Ask your Questions Live to Movement + Meaning Experts after the show 💬 Access to EMP’s distraction-free movement discussion community 📹 Exclusive Monthly Response video from Rafe to member questions 👟 Movement Challenges for your Daily Practice! and so much more... We hope to see you soon in our thriving movement community! Just hit the link below to chat with us between shows and in the next live episode! 👉 Join on https://www.evolvemoveplay.com/opt-podcast/?utm_medium=organic_social&utm_source=youtube&utm_campaign=podcast_promotion ============ Today we have Jonathan Pageau back on the podcast! If you missed our first episode with him, be sure to check that out before watching this one! When we last spoke, my goal for the conversation was to try and see if we could bridge the gap between the symbolic, meaning-focused worldview and a rational materialist, scientific worldview. While our discussion was incredibly rich and brought a lot of value to many of the viewers who shared their responses, there was a point in the conversation where we got stuck and had to put a pin in it. This happened around the idea of the face in the clouds. So as I approached this next conversation, I was pretty intimidated to try to take the conversation further, but by the end of the discussion I was actually really pleased at how far this conversation went and how much more of a bridge I felt like we produced. The first half of our chat revolves around what's happening in our culture around storytelling, and sharing our insights for applying a symbolic worldview to the stories that we’re paying attention to. The second half of the conversation is really about how we bridge these two epistemologies, and we start where we left off with the question of “is a face in the cloud a face in a real way?” What do we mean when we say real? And I think we do some really good work in hacking at that question and then grounding what the discussion is and where the disagreements are. I think there's a ton of valuable insight generation in this conversation and I'm really pleased to be in dialogue with Jonathan and to be able to bring it to you all. If you enjoy the conversation, be sure to leave a like, comment, and subscribe if you haven’t yet. Your support means the world to us! Thanks a lot and enjoy the show! ============ Learn More about Jonathan Pageau Web: https://thesymbolicworld.com Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/c/JonathanPageau/ Twitter: https://twitter.com/PageauJonathan ============ 👍To support the podcast please like, share, subscribe and turn on the notifications by hitting the bell icon. 👤 VISIT US ONLINE - EMP Website: https://www.evolvemoveplay.com - EMP Shop: https://shop.evolvemoveplay.com - IG: @RafeKelly - http://www.instagram.com/rafekelley/ - FB: @RafeKelleyMovement - https://www.facebook.com/RafeKelleyMo... - Twitter: @rafekelley - https://twitter.com/rafekelley - YT Subscribe: https://www.youtube.com/user/Faelcind... - Become a Patron: https://www.patreon.com/rafekelley