In this SEI Podcast, Bill Nichols and Hasan Yasar, both with the Carnegie Mellon University Software Engineering Institute, discuss DevSecOps metrics with Suzanne Miller. DevSecOps practices, made possible by improvements in underlying technology that automate the development-to-production pipeline, can generate more information about development and operational performance than has ever been readily available before. Nichols and Yasar discuss the ways in which DevSecOps practices yield valuable information about software performance that is likely to lead to innovations in software engineering metrics.