We Can't "Live With COVID" By Ignoring It – Nancy Baxter; Carrillo Gantner On Australia's Dismal Diplomacy With China And How To Fix It; Find Out What The Victorian Ombudsman Does

Epidemiologist Professor Nancy Baxter discusses the state of the COVID-19 pandemic as well as other viruses of concern this winter, including the flu. Nancy talks about the experiences of people who choose to wear a mask, those with Long COVID, and those seeking timely anti-viral treatments. Nancy also explains the critical and simple things we can do to protect ourselves, each other, and the health system, which is currently under extreme strain. Nancy is Head of the Melbourne School of Population and Global Health at the University of Melbourne and a general surgeon. Victorian cultural leader and former diplomat Carrillo Gantner AC joins Amy for an in-depth conversation about his new book, 'Dismal Diplomacy, Disposable Sovereignty: Our Problem With China and America.' Carrillo examines the recent history of Australia's very poor diplomatic relations with the People's Republic of China and explains what the new Labor federal government must do to repair the relationship. Victorian Ombudsman Deborah Glass OBE dials in to talk about how human rights are protected and promoted in Victoria by the Ombudsman and what her powers are and how she can act to hold government and public sector agencies to account.