The Flag and the Cross and the Little Blue Bird

Sam Goldman interviews Dr. Phillip Gorski, professor of sociology at Yale, about the contours of the White Christian Nationalist movement. His latest book is The Flag and the Cross written with Dr. Samuel Perry. Follow Dr. Gorski on Twitter at @GorskiPhilip.

Then, Sam talks to Micah Lee, Director of Information Security at The Intercept, about the Nazification of Twitter under Elon Musk. You can follow Micah on Twitter @MicahfLee but he's posting more often on Mastodon these days: https://infosec.exchange/@micahflee and his website is micahflee.com.

Also mentioned on this episode:

The US supreme court is poised to strike another blow against gay rights by Moira Donegan

Why is Texas banning abortions? Because this state is run by Christian fundamentalist fascist lunatics by Coco Das

The Court Case That Could Legalize the Next Coup by Elie Mystal

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Music for this episode: Penny the Snitch by Ikebe Shakedown