March 12, 2023 — Barbara DeLong and Ken Goudsward with Tim Swartz

Gene and cohost Tim Swartz present Barbara DeLong and Ken Goudsward to talk about their backgrounds in paranormal research. The main focus of this interview includes Ken’s books on Ancient Astronauts, “UFOs In The Bible” and “Magic In The Bible.” You’ll also learn about the book they co-authored, “Before Roswell: The Secret History of UFOs,” which covers key sightings that range from the original 1947 cases of the modern UFO era way back those from the ancient world. DeLong is an internationally known radio/pod-cast host, spiritual empath, author, artist, lecturer and ordained minister. She has been working professionally in the spiritual field since the early 70’s in addition to being a full time special education teacher and a single parent. Goudsward is a systems analyst with expertise in industrial robotics, software engineering, and data design. He enjoys applying these skills to ancient Hebrew and Sumerian documents and the UFO phenomenon.