Sustainability for normal people. Interview with sustainability expert John Pabon

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I've been wanting to do an episode on this subject for a VERY long time  so I am delighted to be talking sustainability with John Pabon.

We are all interested in sustainability and the environment but, for many of us, the message around these subjects are confusing, complicated and overall just massively disheartening.
"The world is doomed", "there is no point doing X" or "UNLESS YOU GO VEGAN YOU'RE EVIL!!" are the types of messages we hear all the time but, if you have children, you probably would like to know what you can PRACTICALLY do to help.

John is a globally recognized expert in sustainability. With more than 2 decades of experience in the "saving the planet business", and a whole host of impressive organisations and companies on his CV, he is THE guy to talk to about something like this.

He is also the author of  “Sustainability for the Rest of Us: Your No-Bullshit, Five-Point Plan for Saving the Planet.” 
The book has been described as “…a foundational read for practical sustainability in the 21st century” and “…one of the best sustainability resources available to date.”

His second book  “The Great Greenwashing,” is out now for pre-sale.
And, of course, check out his website https://www.johnpabon.com/

John and I discuss many things including;

What, exactly, is sustainability? (Turns out I didn't know what it REALLY was either!"
Is there any point to people doing anything if big corporations are a large part of the problem?
Recycling, is it a waste of time?
Are corporations actually as evil as we think they are?
Why the "shouty environmentalist" is hurting the sustainability message.
You don't need to do everything, just do something.
Some practical things that any person, and small business, can do to really make a big difference.

And much more.

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