Rachel Withers On The Voice To Parliament; Bob Brown Reflects On His Life, Activism And Connection To Nature; Hugh White On AUKUS And Whether Penny Wong Can Prevent Us From Going To War

Rachel Withers, The Politics Columnist and Contributing Editor of The Monthly speaks about the latest developments on the Indigenous Voice to Parliament.

Former Leader of the Australian Greens, environmentalist, and giant of the conservation movement Bob Brown speaks in-depth with host Amy Mullins. In a wide-ranging and deep conversation, Bob reflects on his life of activism, protest, and deep personal connection with nature including the giant native trees of Tasmania, as depicted in an inspiring documentary, THE GIANTS (in cinemas April 20, co-directed by Rachel Antony and Laurence Billiet). The film interweaves Bob’s story with the life cycle of the ancient trees he is fighting for. In this conversation, Bob shares his wisdom to those who care for and want to protect the environment, and gives us his take on a range of environmental and conservation issues today. Bob heads up the Bob Brown Foundation.

Hugh White, contributor to The Monthly, Emeritus Professor of Strategic Studies at ANU, and author of The China Choice, chats with Amy about his latest piece for The Monthly, ‘Penny Wong’s next big fight’. Hugh looks at whether Foreign Affairs Minister Penny Wong can stop Australia going to war and examines how her foreign policy positions have evolved as shadow and foreign affairs minister. Does Penny Wong believe AUKUS now positions Australia for an inevitable Pacific war, or does she still think we needn’t choose between the US and China?

Note: The two songs Bob Brown mentions from the 1960s, as aired on the show – If I Had A Hammer by Peter, Paul, and Mary AND Little Boxes by Peter Seeger.