First Up - The Podcast, Wednesday 14 June

On today's First Up pod - Donald Trump is due to appear in court facing criminal charges; an auction for a ceramic pot, glazed with silt sourced from the aftermath of cyclone Gabrielle; Opotiki effectively shuts down for a gang funeral, we ask Greens co-leader James Shaw if the government is too soft on crime and as the cost of living impacts our pantries, we hear about some families' reliance on the Fruit In Schools programme. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!