EP44: 16 Things Jesus Never Said, But Sound Like Church - Gracearchy with Jim Babka

How sharp is Jim Babka after two days of insomnia?

We were scheduled to record. But Jim wasn't quite ready to do the show we'd planned to do. He was frustrated. He was tired.

You'll hear the exhaustion in Jim's voice.

But I found this list. It sounds a bit like stuff you'd hear at an average church. And I couldn't help wondering what Jim would do with it.

Well, Jim's mind doesn't stop. The results are unplanned and unvarnished.

The 16 Things Jesus Never Said is based on a list by Jim Palmer, founder of the Center for Non-Religious Spirituality. The list takes various forms on social media and shows signs of "evolution." But most of them match a list Palmer himself published.

Religious corruption in Beatitude language

Here are three of the items on the list...

* By this, all men will know you are my disciples, if you have correct theology.”

* “If you love me, you will regularly attend an approved Bible-teaching church.”

* “Thy kingdom come, thy will be done in Heaven after the earth goes up in flames and is destroyed.”

And Jim ends up taking us into some radical and interesting places...

* That religion exalts murder.

* The time that Jim became a pastor, and how it hurt.

* Why tithing is theft.

* How religion loves hell more than the gospel.

* The flaw of church as a corporation.

Jim also reveals that one of the things on Palmer's list is a trap, and he has to be careful to avoid it.

Timeline

0:00 Intro

0:43 Sinners in the hands of an angry god

2:26 I have come to give you religion

4:07 You are my disciples, if you have correct theology

5:21 Let them disparage all religions and their followers

6:36 If you love me, you'll attend an approved church

9:59 Blessed are the tithers

14:09 Thy kingdom come... after earth goes up in flames

16:55 Love your neighbor, meaning those attending your church

19:33 My father's house has many rooms; his hell hotel twice as much

23:17 The kingdom has come... I mean, after you die.

26:52 You will know the truth... that will make you superior {referenced Dave Brisbin episode}

29:41 God alone can fix it, you are inadequate and powerless

32:30 Come to me all who are weary, and I'll give you a checklist

34:39 God accepts ME in you; you're nothing without me.

37:50 He appeared to his disciples about building 501c mega-churches

43:08 "I'll be back to fix it."

44:46 An Omega Point

Bill Protzmann is your moderator.

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Be grace-full to each other.

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