First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 3 August

On today's First Up pod: We're in South Africa, where the Silver Ferns are taking on the hosts in the Netball World Cup; the latest Newshub Reid Research poll has ACT and National on track to govern alone - we speak with deputy prime minister Carmel Sepuloni and we talk to a teacher and parents about the 14.5 percent pay rise for secondary school teachers. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!