Episode 135 Audio: Freddie deBoer

This week on the pod, we’ve got writer Freddie deBoer joining us for a conversation about the fate of the Bernie movement, the bona fires of progressives in Washington, and the all-important question of how to relate to leftist electeds — especially when they stray from their professed principles.

In this episode, Freddie lays out evidence against AOC as a consistently leftist figure, describing insufficient support for key progressive policies and not enough to show for her years of fundraising and her image as a major figure on the American left. What is her theory of change? And how has it collided with the comparatively conservative agendas of establishment members of her party? If she hasn’t accomplished the things her base expects her to, realistically speaking, is it because she lacks the political will to do so, because that change is hamstrung by her centrist colleagues, or some combination of these things?

We’ll be taking on these important questions and more in this conversation, which you can listen to via Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Pandora, and more.

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