Chalk It Up to Experience

There’s no escape for Justice Secretary Alex Chalk as he faces questions over the state of our justice system. Daniel Khalife’s runner from HMP Wandsworth is only a small example of its decaying state. So why does a government with such a hardline stance on crime struggle to fund the justice system? Plus, comedian Matt Green tells us why our plight often makes us want to laugh as he discusses political comedy in bleak times. And hope is on the horizon – literally. The UK’s rejoining the EU’s Horizon project. Could it pave the way for a return to the bloc? Probably not, but what could be next – if anything?

• “What happens when you don’t fund prisons is you get these terrible conditions, it becomes a safety risk.” – Rachel Cunliffe.
• “Even on things you’d expect Labour to have softer views on, they’ve been quite hardline.” – Rachel Cunliffe.
• “I think any word with the ‘re’ prefix is a bit of a problem … we now have a bespoke WORSE deal with Horizon.” – Matt Green

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Presented by Ros Taylor with Rachel Cunliffe and Matt Green. Producer: Chris Jones. Assistant Producer: Adam Wright. Social Media Producer: Jess Harpin. Audio production by: Robin Leeburn. Group Editor: Andrew Harrison. Managing Editor: Jacob Jarvis. OH GOD, WHAT NOW? is a Podmasters production.

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