Church (Commission) And State

Today, a double interview. First, Mike is joined by David Wain, founding member of the influential and anarchically funny sketch comedy group The State, who are touring now. Then, we turn to Michael Vickers, former under secretary of defense for intelligence in the Obama Administration, about his new book By All Means Available: Memoirs of a Life in Intelligence, Special Operations, and Strategy. Plus, Georgia State Prosecutors crack the case of the Kraken, as Sidney Powell pleads.

Produced by Joel Patterson and Corey Wara

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