Today on the flagship podcast of anti-steering provisions:
02:57 - The Verge's David Pierce and Makena Kelly discuss Epic v. Google, a trial about the future of app stores.
28:49 - Liz Lopatto joins the show to detail her experience covering the Sam Bankman-Fried trial from start to finish.
58:27 - Richard Lawler helps answer this week's Vergecast Hotline question.
Email us at vergecast@theverge.com or leave a voicemail at 866-VERGE11, we love hearing from you.
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