The group of Man United’s death

When the draw came out, we all assumed that PSG, Dortmund, Newcastle and Milan was the 'group of death'. But is Group A the group of death that nobody predicted? It certainly seems so for Man United. Today, Dotun, Andy and David Cartlidge debate whether incompetence has been the spark for all the drama in that group.

Elsewhere, David explains why Milan have come to the end of their time with Stefano Pioli. Plus, a red card followed by scoring the Champions League's 10,000th goal – is that the most Sergio Ramos week ever?

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