First Up - The Podcast, Thursday 14 December

On today's First Up pod - we get the latest from the UK where Rishi Sunak has been fighting for the right to send asylum seekers to Rwanda; Nabil joins us from Ghana where mystery surrounds the identity of a presidential candidate; the pets that turn into pests in Auckland; deputy leader of the Opposition Carmel Sepuloni is here for the last of our weekly catch ups this year and after 50 years, one of Auckland's most iconic ice-cream parlours changes hands. First Up - Voice of the Nathan!