52 - Whitewashing and Statebuilding (German-Israeli relations w/Daniel Marwecki)

What explains Germany's steadfast support for Israel? Even as Israel's response to the October 7th Hamas attacks has drawn increasing international condemnation, Germany has doubled down on support, proclaiming that Israel's security is its Staatsräson and cracking down on speech deemed insufficiently supportive of Israel.

To answer this question from a historical perspective, Ted speaks with Daniel Marwecki, a lecturer at Hong Kong University, about his book Germany and Israel: Whitewashing and Statebuilding. He argues that German support for Israel did not always stem from guilt and the need to atone for historical crimes, but instead from clear-eyed Realpolitik. A German version of the book comes out in early 2024.

-Susan Neiman in the NYRB on Germany, memory culture, and Israel https://www.nybooks.com/articles/2023/10/19/historical-reckoning-gone-haywire-germany-susan-neiman/

-Read Daniel's piece in Le Monde Diplomatique here: https://mondediplo.com/2020/05germany-israel\

-Haaretz on German-Israeli history: https://www.haaretz.com/2015-05-12/ty-article/.premium/the-complicated-israel-germany-love-affair/0000017f-dbbe-d3a5-af7f-fbbe05ad0000?v=1699498553307

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