James Hollis is a Jungian psychoanalyst and the author of many books, including his latest: "A Life of Meaning," which is the primary subject of our conversation. During our conversation, Jim talks about some of the major themes in his work and his book: the shadow, the numinous, psychopathology, lethargy, and fear.
Jim is one of my favorite writers and thinkers, and I reference him as much as anyone. This conversation is full of some of my favorite ideas and quotes, including this first one from his new book:
"Probably the wisest thing ever said about the shadow was uttered by the Roman African playwright Terence, who, a little over two thousand years ago, said, 'Nothing human is alien to me.'”
And the second from the writings of Carl Jung:
"The spirit of evil is negation of the life force by fear. Only boldness can deliver us from fear. If the risk is not taken, the meaning of life is violated."
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00:00 Intro
02:02 Why Jim wrote "A Life of Meaning"
06:25 The shadow
09:35 Why confront one's shadow?
11:45 The numinous and finding your calling
26:17 Lethargy is a threat to living
30:52 A modern culture of distraction
33:25 Jim's decision to become a public educator
38:59 Jim's growth beyond his family of origin
46:27 Psychopathology
50:23 Sin: missing the mark
57:12 Fear - the spirit of evil is negation of the life force by fear
01:01:47 Jim is a "recovering nice person"
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