16 – Canada and Germany: From Free-Riding Laggards to Re-engaged Teammates? [Part 1]

In this two-part series, BerlinsideOut talks about Germany’s relationship with Aaron’s (other) home country of Canada, its potential role in helping to provide Germany and the rest of the democratic team with critical resources, whether both countries are underpricing Russian and Chinese threats, and how to leverage another transatlantic relationship amidst uncertain political times in the US. In the first episode, Ben and Aaron speak to Balkan Devlen, Jonathan Berkshire Miller, and Christian Leuprecht from the MacDonald-Laurier Institute about German-Canadian relations, missed opportunities, the role each country can play on a team of democracies, and how Canada can help countries like Germany “friendshore” critically strategic sectors away from authoritarians. In part two, Ben and Aaron chat with Anessa Kimball and Stephanie Carvin about German and Canadian assessments of Russian military threats, NATO spending, how to make more of the German-Canadian relationship, and leadership on seizing Russian assets.

Guests:

• Balkan Devlen, Director of the Transatlantic Program & Senior Fellow, Macdonald-Laurier Institute (@BalkanDevlen)
• Jonathan Berkshire Miller, Senior Fellow & Director of Foreign Affairs, National Defence and National Security, Macdonald-Laurier Institute (@jbmllr)
• Christian Leuprecht, Director & Editor-in-Chief, Canadian Military Journal and Director, Institute of Intergovernmental Relations, Queen’s University School of Policy Studies
• Anessa Kimball, Full Professor of International Relations at Universite Laval, Centre on International Security, co-Director of Canadian Defence and Security Network
• Stephanie Carvin, Associate Professor of International Affairs, Carleton University (@StephanieCarvin)

Resources:

• Opinion: Canada must champion Ukraine’s rapid integration into NATO, Balkan Devlen and Jonathan Berkshire Miller, National Post
• Opinion: NATO can't ignore China's challenges, Balkan Devlen and Jonathan Berkshire Miller, National Post
• Opinion: Canada's days of freeloading on NATO allies must end, Balkan Devlen and Jonathan Berkshire Miller, National Post
• Canada is allowing Russia’s energy blackmail to win the day in Europe, Christian Leuprecht and Shuvaloy Majumdar, The Globe and Mail
• China’s insidious, longstanding effort to meddle in Canadian affairs, Christian Leuprecht, National Post
• Is Canada Ready to Pay a “National Security Premium”?, Aaron Gasch Burnett, Open Canada
• Germany Should Create a New Stereotype for Itself: Team Power, Roderick Parkes & Benjamin Tallis, Atlantic Council

This podcast is an original production of the German Council on Foreign Relations (DGAP). It was created as part of DGAP's Action Group Zeitenwende.

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