Apple's AI Plans, Real Estate Shake-up, and Guest Dana R. Fisher

Scott fills Kara in on his "clarifying" ketamine experience. Then, Don Lemon releases his much-anticipated Elon Musk interview. Was Elon angry or just bored? Plus, Apple and Google explore a potential AI partnership, the Supreme Court rules on public officials blocking people on social media, and major changes are coming to the world of real estate. Our Friend of Pivot is Dana R. Fisher, Director of the Center for Environment, Community, & Equity at American University, and author of "Saving Ourselves: from Climate Shocks to Climate Action." Dana explains why she's an "apocalyptic optimist," and what's really going to move the needle with climate change activism.

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