S2, Ep1: "Shit Sucks, Don't Drink Over It" w/Katie MACK (NYC) of Award-Winning Fucking Sober Podcast

Creator of the 2021 Webby Award winning podcast "Fucking Sober: The First 90 Days," Katie Mack (who goes by MACK) joined me for a candid discussion about American society and sobriety just hours after Roe v. Wade was overturned.

Her story and insight are inspiring: MACK persevered through six relapses in alcohol recovery over the past decade to finally make it stick. You'll be lifted up by her effusive joy for life -- yes, even sober life, and *especially* sober life.

We also get to learn how she found a way to look herself in the eyes and genuinely like who she sees.

Finally, MACK gives us the latest scoop on Seasons 2-4 of "Fucking Sober" which I and many others absolutely cannot wait to hear!