Are You a Command and Control Leader? | An Interview with David Kasperson

David P. Kasperson has been building high-trust partnerships and innovative solutions for clients of FranklinCovey’s Global Trust Practice for more than 15 years. Most of that time has been spent in collaboration with Stephen M. R. Covey, managing his speaking business, and custom client solutions as the Director of Business Development. An expert on trust, he has served clients via consulting, coaching, program design, and keynote speaking in more than twenty countries. He is co-author of the bestseller, Trust & Inspire: How Truly Great Leaders Unleash Greatness in Others. Kurt and David served together in the Sacramento, California mission. David has twice served as an elders quorum president and as a counselor, in a Young Men presidency, and as a teacher in Sunday School and Primary. Highlights 01:45 Introduction to David Kasperson and the book he co-authored with Steven M. R. Covey 04:30 Two styles of leadership Command and control Trust and inspire 05:00 David breaks down the command and control style of leadership Home teaching is enlightened command and control 16:00 The trust and inspire style of leadership Trust and inspire are action words not nouns Great leaders see and feel the greatness in everyone 24:00 Trust is a verb not a noun. When extending trust make sure you have clear expectations and a process of accountability 27:00 Real life examples and phrases to use and not to use to show that you trust an individual 31:30 The difference between trust and delegation 33:00 Management is for things, not people. We aren’t trying to manage people. We are trying to help them grow. 42:30 Leadership is walking hand in hand with someone not stepping in and doing their job 54:15 We are afraid to let go of the control. We default to the command and control style of leadership. As a leader, you can have control without being controlling. Do we want compliance or conversion? 56:30 Leadership is really stewardship. God is trusting us to help others grow and learn. 57:40 Even those that we lead might prefer the command and control style of leading. They just want their leader to tell them exactly what to do. However, that is not what’s best for growth. 1:01:00 Success vs. significance 1:03:45 Inspiration is a skill. It’s a muscle that has to be worked. 1:07:50 David’s new book gives you the day-to-day steps to take as a leader to inspire and extend trust. It’s a great place for a new leader to begin. Links Trust and Inspire: How Truly Great Leaders Unleash the Greatness in Others FranklinCovey.com SpeedofTrust.com TrustandInspire.com Read the TRANSCRIPT of this podcast Get 14-day access to the Core Leader Library The Leading Saints Podcast gets over 300,000 listens each month and has nearly 10 million total downloads as part of nonprofit Leading Saints' mission to help latter-day saints be better prepared to lead. Learn more and listen to any of the past episodes for free at LeadingSaints.org. Past guests include Emily Belle Freeman, David Butler, Hank Smith, John Bytheway, Liz Wiseman, Stephen M. R. Covey, Julie Beck, Brad Wilcox, Jody Moore, Tony Overbay, John H. Groberg, Elaine Dalton, Tad R. Callister, J. Devn Cornish, Dennis B. Neuenschwander, Anthony Sweat, John Hilton III, Barbara Morgan Gardner, Blair Hodges, Ryan Gottfredson, Greg McKeown, DeAnna Murphy, Michael Goodman, Richard Ostler and many more in over 700 episodes. Discover podcasts, articles, virtual conferences, and live events related to callings such as the bishopric, Relief Society, elders quorum, Primary, youth leadership, stake leadership, ward mission, ward council, young adults, ministering, and teaching.