The man who beat Trump

The Libertarian Party is known for being unconventional in US politics. But could it have an outsized influence in who wins the Oval Office this election year?

Americast sits down with Chase Oliver, the man who beat both Trump and RFK Jr for his party’s 2024 nomination. But what does he and his party believe in? Could he make it all the way to the top? And will he give the BBC his first interview if he’s elected president.

HOSTS: * Justin Webb, Radio 4 presenter * Anthony Zurcher, North America Correspondent

GUEST: * Sumi Somaskanda, BBC Chief Presenter * Chase Oliver, 2024 Libertarian presidential candidate

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This episode was made by Tim Walklate with Rufus Gray, Catherine Fusillo and Claire Betzer. The technical producer was Mike Regaard. The series producer is Purvee Pattni. The senior news editor is Sam Bonham.