It is time to push each other forward, not down.

Sometimes, in the words of Dr. Johnny Lupinacci, we have to have a little bit of a backbone with our solidarity. What does that mean? It means it's time to compare some options for the VP slot on Kamala Harris' presidential ticket. Over the next few weeks, we'll hear a lot of comparison and contrast as the final Democratic ticket forms. On Busted Pencils, we are committed to hearing and facilitating healthy debate. It's part of how we're modeling this week's lesson, of Timothy Snyder's 20 - # 12: make small talk.

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Guests: Dr. Tim Slekar, Dr. Johnny Lupinacci