172/ The Holocaust, the Nakba and Reparative Memory
For episode 172, Elia Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik talk about a very difficult topic: the Holocaust and the Nakba. The ongoing Israeli genocide in Gaza brings up urgent questions about how memory is weaponized. Elia also talks about Jonathan Glazer,'s The Zone of Interest and the haunting parallels between the everyday life of the Nazi family portrayed in that movie, and the normalization of genocidal rhetoric in Israeli politics today.
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Episode Links:
Elia's piece: The Ghosts of Israel's Future, Part 1
Multidirectionary Memory by Michael Rothberg
Rachel Auerbuch, Yad Vashem and Israeli Holocaust Memory
Unzere Kinder, a film (1946, 1948)
Ancestral Future, by Ailton Krenak
Trailer of The Zone of Interest
Jonathan Glazer calls out Israel's weaponisation of the holocaust
Mir Kumen On, a film (1936)
The Holocaust and the Nakba: a new Grammar of Trauma and History
Raez Zreik: The Palestinian Question as a Jewish Question
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Credits:
Host(s): Elia Ayoub and Daniel Voskoboynik | Producers: Aydın Yıldız, Elia Ayoub, israa' abdel fattah, Ayman Makarem and/or Leila Al-Shami | Music: Rap and Revenge | TFTT theme design: Wenyi Geng | FTP theme design: Hisham Rifai | Sound editor: Elliott Miskovicz | Team profile pics: Molly Crabapple | Episode design: Elia Ayoub
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