Being Known (Jess & James)

Jess and James have been MARRIED for almost NINE years, together for FOURTEEN, and are just a hoot! They have two young children who have taught them A LOT about how to be good partners in life. Neither Jess nor James really care about celebrating anniversaries (or remembering them, for that matter), especially the more arbitrary ones. Their first anniversary involved eating nachos and watching football on their couch when they still lived in Brooklyn, if that gives you any idea. They describe conflict in their relationship as “getting snippy” with one another, rather than “full on fights.” Julia chats with them about the flawed concept of “newness,” the difference between romance and affection, how the ways in which their way their families of origin navigated conflict contributed to some misunderstandings early on, and about how important it is to feel listened to and to make their children feel as though they are listened to...Jess was a guest on episode 10 of Under Her Eye (“The Worst Shopping Partner Ever,” June 2017) and you can listen to that here.