#18 Running a Creative, Mystical Ecosystem with "Sleep No More"
New York's "Sleep No More" is probably the most successful piece of immersive theatre of all time. But there are thousands of moving parts to this magical machine. Guest Cesar Hawas likes to describe the parts of this creative ecosystem as just that, magic, but there are tons of insights to how an arts company can get such an expensive building and keep it running and profitable. Cesar talks about the more ethereal parts of Sleep No More and all of the inspiration that surrounds it at the McKittrick Hotel in our first remote episode recorded outside of California.
5:55 - Cesar Hawas
https://mckittrickhotel.com/
https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/
https://twitter.com/heypiece?lang=en
http://lebalrevue.com/
6:01- The Lodge at the Mckittrick Hotel
https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/
7:34- When and why The Lodge opened
8:50- http://immersivedesignsummit.com/
10:05- What are the different experiences you can have in the McKittrick Hotel?
https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/
https://mckittrickhotel.com/manderley-bar/
https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/
https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/
12:53- Creating complicated experiences
13:36- Film VS Broadway and theater
13:53- Have you done any productions on the West Coast?
14:51- Cesar talks about working on Broadway
https://www.broadway.com
15:08- Did you go to theater school?
17:39- Cesar goes into detail about acting
18:28- What was the first moment that you discovered Immersive theater/entertainment?
21:43- Cesar goes into detail about Sleep No More and why it is powerful
https://mckittrickhotel.com/sleep-no-more/
22:10- Noah Nelson:
https://noproscenium.com/
https://twitter.com/NoProscenium
Check out Artist Real Talk episode 11 with Noah Nelson:
https://itunes.apple.com/us/podcast/a-r-t-artists-real-talk/id1159607075?mt=2&i=1000379844107
24:23- The Queen Marry
http://www.queenmary.com/
27:53- Jacob asks Dino (Think Tank Creative Art Director), “when was the first time you were exposed to Immersive Art?”
29:26- What have you been hearing about Star Wars Land?
https://www.orlandoweekly.com/Blogs/archives/2018/02/12/disneys-new-star-wars-hotel-will-seamlessly-connect-to-galaxys-edge-at-hollywood-studios
30:32- https://www.facebook.com/groups/everythingimmersive/?hc_ref=PAGES_TIMELINE
33:03- Sleep No More’s intention
33:43- How many times have you seen the show?
35:33- Cesar talks about one of the powerful aspects of Sleep No More
38:18- http://immersivedesignsummit.com/
Sara Thacher Walt Disney Imagineering Research & Development
https://www.disneyresearch.com/
40:25- Dino shares his experience at Sleep No More
42:13 Is there any sort of guidance that you guys give on this?
43:31- Jacob’s worst fear
44:27- https://www.punchdrunk.com/
45:41- Cesar discusses following the narrative and the correlation between McBeth and Hitchcock
48:35- Jacob explains how he is happy with his choice of not reading MacBeth before Sleep No More
49:18- Is this the second time the show has been mounted; because it also happened in London.
49:25- Cesar breaks down the history of Sleep No More
https://www.punchdrunk.org.uk/sleep-no-more/
https://americanrepertorytheater.org/node/635
52:20- Sleep No More’s audience
52:44- Cesar and Jacob touch on how there is no dialogue in Sleep No More which making it easy for people of every language to experience and enjoy
54:36- The most exciting aspect of Sleep No More
55:22- Supercinema at the McKittrick Hotel
https://vimeo.com/166848947
Supercinema - Clue
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh2fSsypV34
Supercinema - Wizard Of Oz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u1KMDShfWOc
Read more about the Supercinema parties:
https://www.broadwayworld.com/article/The-McKittricks-Supercinema-Parties-to-Channel-CLUE-Tim-Burton-MOULIN-ROUGE-20161202
http://www.theatermania.com/new-york-city-theater/news/supercinema-to-celebrate-clue-moulin-rouge_78399.html
http://www.theculturefiles.com/supercinema-nyc-guilty-party-clue-tickets/
57:52- Jacob touches on how being a host is a difficult task
58:35- https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/candytopia-happy-place-exhibitions-temporarily-close-la-1069964
https://www.timeout.com/los-angeles/blog/happy-place-is-l-a-s-latest-selfie-inspiring-pop-up-111817
1:02:47- Inclusiveness
59:09- The Universe is a Small Hat Trailer:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Bfo3aDD0p4&feature=youtu.be
Learn more here:
http://theuniverseisasmallhat.com/
1:04:02- Jacob asks Cesar if they survey people about their experience at Sleep No More
1:08:03- Does the art direction or improvisation of Sleep No More change at all or has it been the same for years?
1:10:11- The Heath
https://mckittrickhotel.com/the-heath/
1:11:28- Gallow Green
https://mckittrickhotel.com/gallow-green/
1:15:11- Colin Nightingale
Creative Producer, Punchdrunk International
http://immersivedesignsummit.com/colinnightingale.html
https://www.punchdrunk.com/
1:17:28- How big is the team that is programming ancillary spaces?
1:18:46- Sign up for mailings for upcoming events at McKittrick Hotel
https://mckittrickhotel.com/guestbook/
1:19:07- Marketing
1:19:46- Cesar touches on how they haven’t spent any money on advertising
1:23:24- How has the High Line affected the show or has the show affected the High Line?
http://www.thehighline.org/
https://twitter.com/highlinenyc
1:25:05- How involved is Punchdrunk?
https://www.punchdrunk.com/
Find more of Cesar Hawas at:
https://mckittrickhotel.com/
https://www.instagram.com/cesarhawas/
https://twitter.com/heypiece?lang=en
http://lebalrevue.com/
Find more of Jacob Patterson at:
https://www.instagram.com/jmjpatterson
https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla
Find More of Dino Nama at:
https://www.instagram.com/nunquamdormio
https://www.instagram.com/thinktankdtla
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