Chris from OK calls in to Marc Stevens to debate the topic of the ethics of Vegans. Marc seemed to have trouble establishing the sanctity of the central nervous system so he switched the debate to the health issue, which he based on a Canadian Inuit Study that he himself did not conduct but somehow became empirical for him by way of the miracle of science conferrence(?). That would be where something magically becomes empirical for you because a scientist priest told you it was true. https://www.collinsdictionary.com/us/dictionary/english/conferrence
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