Episode 407 - The Side Effect (with Arjun Gupta and Elle Lipson)

Arjun Gupta and Elle Lipson join us to talk about episode 407, "The Side Effect" and the message at its heart, plus a deep dive into who Penny 40 sees at the end of the episode. This episode is noisier than normal -- a side effect, if you will, of Arjun's environment in Bombay. We think you'll enjoy it anyway, but you might want to listen to it in your car or over a speaker instead of on headphones!