"Maturity before numbers" says US megachurch pastor Randy Pope

Randy Pope, lead pastor of Atlanta's Perimeter Church for 42 years, joins us this week, as he transitions out of the senior leadership role. 

Perimeter has been responsible for over forty church plants since 1977.

He joins us to talk ministry strategy, his realisation that he needed to focus on spiritual maturity, rather than growth, and a thorn in the flesh for many senior pastors, 'Spiritual Pride.'