In today's podcast we hear from two psychedelic luminaries, Sasha Shulgin and Alan Watts. The Shulgin talk is one that he gave at MIT on December 1, 2005 and can also be found in video format on the MIT Web site. The date and location of the Alan Watts talk is unknown but it contains one of his best illustrations of what may be the true condition of us humans and concludes with the observation that, "You see, it doesn't matter in what form you begin. Whether you begin again as a human being, or as a fruit fly, butterfly, or a beetle, or a bird, it feels the same way that you feel now. So we're really all in the same place."
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