You don’t usually think of Japan’s geisha as being an industry, but it is. In fact, strictly speaking, it’s a cartel. A cartel that is now being disrupted by internet-based booking agencies and low-cost substitutes. It seems that even geisha are not immune to internet-based disintermediation.
In this special interview Sayuki, Japan’s only geisha that holds an MBA, explains the business model behind geisha. We talk about the way things used to be, the current threats that have many geisha concerned that the traditional art form and the lifestyle will not survive, and how some geisha houses are trying to adapt.
This is a rare, behind the scenes look at the business of being a geisha and a chance to see how Japan’s geisha might survive and even thrive in the coming digital age.
It’s a fascinating discussion, and I think you’ll enjoy it.
Show Notes for Startups
How Sayuki broke 100 years of tradition to become a geisha
How geisha are being challenged by both the entertainment and tourism industries
Changing geisha from a private art to a public one
Why geisha might not survive the modern era of tourism
The geisha cartel is being challenged, any why that's not good for anyone
The challenge modern geisha face on social media
The changes in training for the next generation of Japan's geisha
Links from the Founder
Sayuki's home page
Follow her on twitter @sayukiofasakusa
Become her patron on Patreon
Follow her on Facebook
Book a geisha experience
Geisha Banquet in Tokyo
Private Custom Shopping Tour with a Geisha
Private Lunch with Sayuki
Kimono Shopping
Tokyo Tour
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Transcript from Japan
Disrupting Japan, episode 61.
Welcome to Disrupting Japan, straight talk from Japan's most successful entrepreneurs.
I'm Tim Romero and thanks for listening.
Today I’ve got something really special for you. We are going to talk about the kind of business that you’ve probably never heard any details about. Today we’re going to sit down and interview Sayuki, a Geisha. And since this is Disrupting Japan, we’ll be talking about the business side of being a Geisha. We’ll look at the Geisha business model and examine how it’s being disrupted by modern technology. And believe me, it really is.
Now, listeners outside Japan might not understand how special this opportunity is. Traditionally, Geisha are not really supposed to talk about their business. Geisha create the illusion of comfort, beauty, and elegance, that is unsoiled by such base things as money. But make no mistake about it; it’s an illusion. Geisha is a very serious business and Sayuki, who also has an MBA from Oxford, has agreed to sit down and walk us through it.
In fact, from a business point of view, Geisha are an established cartel that are being disrupted by new technology, the internet, and tourism websites in particular, and by low-cost substitutes. And there’s a very good chance that Geisha will not survive in their traditional form. In fact, many Geisha houses are proactively trying to adapt to this new market environment. But Sayuki tells this story much better than I do, so let’s hear from our sponsor and then get right to the interview.
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[Interview]
Tim: So today we’re sitting down with Sayuki, who is a bonafide Geisha here in Japan and we’re going to talk about the business of being a Geisha, so thanks so much for sitting down with me today.
Sayuki: Thank you.
Tim: First and foremost, a lot of our audience is either in Japan or knows a lot about Japan, but a lot of people don’t, so before I get started for the business can you clear up exactly what a Geisha is, what they do now, what they used to do?
Sayuki: A Geisha means arts person, literally. So Geisha are traditional dancers or musicians,
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