A Dual Podcast with Chris Logan

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Drew Slocum: (00:09):

This is episode 19 of the Fire Protection Podcast, powered by Inspect Point. Today I sit down with Chris Logan of the Fire Sprinkler Podcast, so it's actually brought to you by the Fire Sprinkler Podcast as well. Um, Chris and I did a dual podcast on Friday. Try to make it a little bit fun since we're, we're, we've been stuck in, uh, uh, containment for, uh, uh, the last, uh, week and coming up on two weeks here. So, uh, no new news since Friday. Luckily, um, people continue to stay in businesses, continue to shut down, especially in the Northeast Canada, on the West Coast. And, uh, yeah, a lot of, lot of troublesome times out there, but we'll definitely get through it. Um, we try to, uh, have fun on the podcast as well as, uh, get into some, uh, some tough questions. So anyway, hope you enjoy. Again, it's a, a little informal podcast, and, uh, Chris and I decided to do one together to keep it light. Enjoy. Yeah.

Chris Logan: (01:13):

We'll cross up.

Drew Slocum: (01:14):

Cool. All right. We're off. We are off. So, uh, yeah, let's do a post this thing.

Chris Logan: (01:25):

Yeah. So, Drew, Drew Slocum Inspect Point Fire Protection Podcast, Chris Logan Fire Sprinkler podcast. Uh, we started talking years ago when I started my podcast. And, uh, you know, when, when you launched yours, we kind of got into it together and, you know, you, you reached out to me and said, Hey, I'm gonna be starting one. What do you think? And I said, please do. Because I'm sick of listening to myself in the car. I'm gonna drive to work. Right. How's everything working out for you?

Drew Slocum: (01:52):

Uh, that's great. Um, you, you know, we've got some extra time on our hands these days, so, uh, unfortunately. So, uh, I've got a couple, uh, getting ready to record next week. Um, Inspect Point's, doing really well. I don't, you know, there's a lot of uncertainty out there, obviously, so, uh, I'm sure we'll get into that. But, uh, no, it's going well. This podcast is, it's a fun, it's a fun thing to do, and, uh, I'm glad you got it kicked off. And then , everything was right after, it's been almost a year, I think for, it was last, April was the first episode.

Chris Logan: (02:27):

Yeah, I was gonna say, you're coming up on a year. I'm coming up on two and quarter, something like that. The end of February of 2018 is when I started mine. Yeah. And, uh, fun. Like, uh, never ever would I get the chance to talk to people in the industry that I've gotten the chance to talk to. So it's worked out a lot, you know, it's worked out in my favor a hundred percent. Cause it kinda, it got other people interested in creating content like you. Yeah. Like, I, this, this is exactly what my game plan was, is hopefully I could do it long enough where somebody else would want to do it, and then I would've something to listen to.

Drew Slocum: (03:01):

Yeah, exactly. Yeah. There's a, there's enough, there's a, there's only one, one other that popped up that I know of. It's the Life Safety podcast, so I'll give him a plug. Okay. But, uh, I haven't, I haven't listened to too many of them. Yeah. Um, yeah, Ruben Garcia's done it, it, it's more on the, the passive, passive fire protection, like fire doors. Uh, maybe I should probably listen to the podcast more . But no, it's been fun. I've talked to a lot of people that I really respect in the industry, and, um, you know, there's a lot of people reaching out from, from all over the country, all over the world. It's weird. You see the analytics of the, of the podcast come in and who's listening to it, and the majority of it's North America, Canada, and the us, but then there'll be like, random spots in like New Zealand or Southeast Asia or it, yeah, it's kind of wild.

Chris Logan: (03:55):

It's neat to see. I've got, I've got like a, I've got a decent following of about 30 or 40 people in Australia, like spread across Australia that, that download religiously listen to the podcast, and it's awesome. Like, it's cool. I've hit every, every content now except for Antarctica , which is, uh, I'm just waiting, waiting for somebody down in Antarctica to give me at least one download so that I can stay. I'm on every content so that my buddies, cause I told my buddy, yeah, I'm on every, I'm on every continent. They're like, oh yeah, listen to Antarctica. I'm like,

Drew Slocum: (04:26):

There's gotta be a firefighter or a fire official down there somewhere.

Chris Logan: (04:30):

Yeah. I'm gonna have to link up, go through my contact and see if I have any business cards.

Drew Slocum: (04:36):

That's funny. So let, let, let's get, let's get to it. People don't wanna hear us chat, right? Yeah.

Chris Logan: (04:43):

. It's nice talking to you again. Yes. But yeah, um, you, you reached out to me. You wanted to kind of talk about everything that's going on now. If you are unaware of what's going on now, you've been living under a rock. Um, and, and I think actually it's safe to say that most people out there have been living under a rock just because of the situation that's going on. Nobody's traveling, nobody's going out. And about, um, how are things in, uh, in New York?

Drew Slocum: (05:12):

Well, I'm, I'm in, I'm in Connecticut, so I, uh, I, I'm glad I'm, you know, New York City's. We, we moved to Connecticut about a, a year ago now. Um, lived there for about 11 years, but still staying, uh, quite attached to it because, uh, I'm headed the fire sprinkler, uh, contractors association there. So that is, it's, it's changing by the hour, I feel like. So every day, uh, mayor de Blassio as well as, uh, governor Cuomo, Andrew Cuomo are having just press conferences on what's going on. Um, you know, I gotta stay on top of construction there because they're, they're threatening to shut down all construction. Um, which is, it's kind of crazy if you shut down all construction in the largest city in North America. Right. Um, yeah.

(06:04)
So how does that not just hurt, does it construction, but fire sprinkler, everything? How does that, how does the whole money flow going on with development and all that? Um, fire safety, luckily enough, is an essential, um, it's categorized an essential business, so mm-hmm. , all those workers, construction workers and, um, service and inspection workers are still, are still going at it. But, you know, that could change. And I don't, I don't think, you know, I think service of the buildings with fire protection is gonna stay there. It's just, I think some of the new construction is gonna get hit either way, whether it's a job site shutdown or just funding of the prediction. It's, it's kind of wild

Chris Logan: (06:47):

As a, as a, as a sprinkler contractor as well. That's what I'm waiting for. It's not waiting, like with my fingers crossed, but, uh, you know, materials getting harder and harder to get delivery. Guys don't wanna come out and send out material if there's anybody on site. Um, I'm waiting for being in Canada and being in Ontario. I'm waiting for the Premier to just say, we're doing this provincial shutdown, shutting down all construction. And, um, just like in the States, I'm sure there's been, you know, two or three press conferences a day. And, uh, you know, it's, it's fascinating to watch how they're reacting to something that's never been, it's never been an issue before. This is something that we've never experienced in my lifetime. And I, I mean, pretty young, not to suit my own horn, but, uh, you know, there's never been a situation that's affected literally everybody in the

Drew Slocum: (07:37):

World. In the world. Yeah.

Chris Logan: (07:39):

It's not just a, oh, there's a little bit of a financial crunch in southwestern Ontario or an out west or in the state? No, it is like a, a pandemic. It's a little, it's a worldwide pandemic, and it's, uh, you know, it's, it's, it sucks to see, but it's also, I think it is bringing out a lot of good in people For the most part. For the most part. There are still people that aren't understanding exactly what needs to be, uh, what needs to be done. Um, but I mean, it's a time thing, right? Like it's, it's gonna hit, I think it's gonna hit everybody, and I think it's gonna be bad for a little while. And I, I just hope construction in general is, is able to adapt to the situation.

Drew Slocum: (08:22):

Yeah. You're gonna, I, I think e I think either way it's, it, it's gonna take a hit to the economy. You know, there's a few things, obviously the health risks, that's, that's number one. But, um, right. Uh, personal and, and family and all that. But it, it's gonna, the healthcare systems are gonna be influx for months and maybe, hopefully not years to come, but, um, potentially just influx of how, how things are handled. But, uh, and then the, the economic, which is huge as well, because every, everything, every little thing that gets shut down is just gonna be a ripple effect. So, uh, construction, I think, you know, if we go into a recession or even beyond that, um, deep recession, you know, construction companies are gonna have to adapt. Fire protection companies, fire sprinkler companies. So, um, you know, I'm gonna plug in spec point right now, but we're trying to work on some, you know, now we have some time and people are at home. We're gonna work on some just, just video, um, webinars to try to keep people positive for one. But, hey, while you're indoors, let's, let's focus on your business and see if we can do anything to kind of come out of this a little better. So

Chris Logan: (09:36):

Mm-hmm. , it has, it has given a lot of people the opportunity to, uh, you know, maybe not. It sucks because the cash flow is essentially, you're not gonna feel it now. You're gonna feel it in 30 days or whatever your payment terms are, the contractor, right. If you're payment terms in 10 days or 15 days, or 30 or 60 days for maybe some out there, I hope not. But, you know, people are gonna feel it in 30 days from now when all the invoices for the inspections that were done in the past week get rolled out and the payments don't flow in, that's when everybody's gonna start seeing it. Yeah. And they're starting to know it. Like they're starting to see it now, you're starting to see the layoffs and stuff like that. Um, it's, it's, it's a different animal. Um, I am happy to see that the government has stepped up to offer financial assistance, at least in Canada. I'm sure they're doing it in the states as well. Um, you know, they typically in Canada, when you apply for unemployment insurance, um, there's a two week waiting period where you don't get paid for two weeks and then your money starts. They waived that. So if I'm off, you know, if I decide Monday I'm laid off, uh, I will get paid for that week, the following week, et cetera, et cetera.

Drew Slocum: (10:45):

Oh, nice. That's nice. I, yeah, there's something going on in the states. I, you know, we'll see what happens. I think they're trying to do the best, but a lot of this is unknown too. So there, there maybe have to be multiple stimulus packages or whatever. Uh, I know, uh, I just got alerted that tax day moved, uh, three months out. So that's, that's great for us here in the States, .

Chris Logan: (11:07):

Yeah, that's right. We got, uh, ours, ours as well was just pushed to, we have until June 1st. And, um, uh, as well for renewing license plates and, and, uh, you know, driver's license, health cards, things like that. All renewing, all those just got pushed back to at least June 1st.

Drew Slocum: (11:22):

Wow. Yeah. It's, it's unprecedented man. It, it's, it's weird every day, you know, cuz we've, you know, I've been stuck inside here. I went to the grocery store last night, which was, that was, it was fine. I got enough food, but it, it, it's just a weird, it's a weird feeling being out there with nobody's talking to each other. I don't know. Mm-hmm. , it's, it's odd. So,

Chris Logan: (11:46):

Uh, yeah, so I'm, I live in a small town in Canada, obviously, so it's pretty friendly, pretty friendly country for the most part. Um, people are still, you know, everybody for the most part is keeping that six foot distance,

Drew Slocum: (12:00):

Right?

Chris Logan: (12:01):

Know everybody's still, oh, hey, how's it going? Uh, everybody, you know, every once I'm, I'm a handshake guy, I'll shake anybody's hand, uh, reaches you or says hello to me, Hey, how's it going? Uh, so that was a huge, for a day or two, I'd reach out and then automatically, uh, go back to the like, oh, multi elbow, here we go. Let's, uh, kinda switch gears here. We're not touching anymore. We'll do the elbow bump, but nowadays it's even . How's it going?

Drew Slocum: (12:28):

At least you get eye contact, right? Little wave

Chris Logan: (12:32):

. Yeah, that's, hi, how you doing today? ?

Drew Slocum: (12:36):

But yeah, it's, uh, yeah, go ahead. Go ahead. No, no, you go. I'm gonna, I'm gonna, I'm gonna open up a beer, Chris. Cause I, I had one sitting here. Yep.

Chris Logan: (12:47):

Oh wow. What a nice, what a nice, I

Drew Slocum: (12:49):

Know, right? I got my lobster and Eric ett, you know, hometown. Wow. I open this up. So, and I, circumstances I have as well, so, well,

Chris Logan: (13:01):

Goodness. That's nice. Actually, you know what, um, last Thursday was a, uh, career fair in industry dinner at Seneca College in Toronto. Mm-hmm. . And I fi I finally, after a year and a half, got rid of my last cozy,

Drew Slocum: (13:16):

Ah,

Chris Logan: (13:18):

I, I ordered, I think I ordered 1500 of them. Uh, maybe it wasn't a year and a half, it was probably eight months. But, uh, between N FSA was what I ordered them for. I ordered 1500 for N fsa and then I brought to N F D A and just different small trade shows in the area. And I finally got rid of my last 150 I had left. And I was so pumped to just finally not have a thousand ies, or not cozies, but, um, uh, coasters in my basement. So in case anybody out there right now is going to my website to buy some,

Drew Slocum: (13:53):

Well, I, I've got some over here in my office. I've got about 20 so I can put 'em on eBay for you.

Chris Logan: (13:59):

You know what, the price just went up collector's items.

Drew Slocum: (14:02):

So how are you seeing up, you know, I haven't talked to a lot of Canadian companies. You know, I've been, we've been trying to reach out to all of our customers contractor, you know, fire sprinkler and beyond. But, um, how is, I mean, has, has construction stopped? Is inspection testing kind of going or are people still waiting?

Chris Logan: (14:21):

You know, so for, for right now, large contract is still on the go. Us as a, as a small family owned and operated co uh, company, we're taking it very serious as far as, you know, maintaining distances. If we have an inspection that's not, you know, if it's a, if it's an annual inspection, as long as we're within three months of nfpa, we'll try to push it back for three months. We're not going into buildings that we don't have to. We've pushed all, um, non-essential work at nursing homes and care facilities shut down. Um, right. Essentially, if we don't in a building, we're not just gonna, we're not just gonna maintain our existing schedule. Um, we service a lot of chemical refineries here in Sarnia. Um, we've told them, you know, it's not you, me not going into your plant. Right. But most of the refineries have shut down operations as well to a skeleton who's not a central personnel are working from home. Right. So it's, everybody's been meeting us with No, that's exactly what we want you to do.

Drew Slocum: (15:24):

That's

Chris Logan: (15:25):

Good. I mean, large contract, it's large contract is different because then you get into the situation where if I simply refuse to show up to a job site, I'm technically in breach of contract. And that's something that I haven't heard any of the government officials talking about yet, um, is, you know, I have a contract to provide a service. If I don't provide that service without any reason other than, you know, me saying, no, it's no good. Am I in breaching contract?

Drew Slocum: (15:52):

Right.

Chris Logan: (15:53):

So

Drew Slocum: (15:54):

The other thing you have to think about, and I, I guess I'm not a contractor, but I, you know, talk to 'em all the time and represent them. But, um, what, what happens, you know, the economy's gonna take a hit either way here. Um, yep. Hey, Chris, your, your, uh, brightness just went up, so

Chris Logan: (16:14):

Yeah, I saw that. She just, I dunno what happened.

Drew Slocum: (16:17):

You're good. Um, what happens if the, you know, because money flows down from the investors to the developer, to the general contractor or cm, whatever that is, then down to the sub. So say you send your guys the last couple weeks, if, if that goes under, are you even gonna get paid for that? Like there's a huge risk there. I would, I would feel too, I don't know.

Chris Logan: (16:42):

So the Ontario, like the, sorry, Trudeau the prime minister of Canada, uh, people have a love hate relationship with him. He's either very loved or absolutely hated. Um, I dunno if, uh, the guy in the States has a similar kinda relationship with his people, , um, people either love him or hate

Drew Slocum: (17:01):

Him, wouldn't want his job tell you that much.

Chris Logan: (17:04):

Yeah, I'll say that.

Drew Slocum: (17:05):

Especially right now.

Chris Logan: (17:07):

Uh, you know what, there's a lot of people on social media that think they can do his job substantially better. Uh, but I digress. Um, they, they have announced a lot of assistance for small businesses, large businesses, et cetera, et cetera. The, the Canadian government has, has set aside 83 billion in financial assistance specifically for Covid-19. Um, so that, those kind of things are good to see. I haven't dug too, too much into how I get my hands on 83 billion yet. Right. Um, but it is something, you know, as a company we've been looking at, uh, just trying to figure it out. Just trying to keep everybody going as long as possible as well as keeping everybody safe. Uh, I'm not gonna force my employees if they would, if they don't feel safe at work, I'm not gonna force them. Sure. So it's the balancing act of, you know, help me maintain my contract. But at the same time, you know, if you, if family wants you home, be home, you should be home with family.

Drew Slocum: (18:08):

Yep, yep. Yeah. So it's

Chris Logan: (18:12):

Just hoping the government sees that and is eventually like, you know what, let's take a, a two to three week time out here. Let's just pause everything, push everything back for you.

Drew Slocum: (18:23):

That's if's If everybody's on the same page though, I I, if everybody got on the same page, I feel like this would, you know, I don't know. We're gonna look back at this podcast and, and it might be, uh, obviously different in a few weeks. So hopefully, hopefully it's a lot better and we're out of this, but

Chris Logan: (18:39):

It could be different tomorrow.

Drew Slocum: (18:40):

Yeah.

Chris Logan: (18:41):

That's how fast things have been evolving is that it's, it's changing day by day. Like I said, it's something we've never, we've never seen before as an industry and as a, you know, as a country, as a, as a pop general world population, something we haven't experienced.

Drew Slocum: (18:58):

Sure.

Chris Logan: (18:59):

Curious to see how, uh, you know, Italy's getting decimated right now. China was decimated. They're supposed to be on the swing, but

Drew Slocum: (19:09):

Yeah, it's all about stats, right. You know, and Yeah. Yeah. I dunno, it's, it's wild.

Chris Logan: (19:17):

Any confirmed cases in your area?

Drew Slocum: (19:19):

Um, it was weird, you know, the, um, in the rival daycare that my, that my boys go to, uh, a little kid had it there, which is crazy. It's right down the street. Yeah. Um, they caught it from the NBA place. Did you hold on

Chris Logan: (19:36):

Up here? Did you call it a rival business?

Drew Slocum: (19:41):

Uh, rival, whatever. It's the, it's the other daycare in town, . They're battling for a

Chris Logan: (19:47):

Rival daycare. There's flight every other week on the way to school.

Drew Slocum: (19:51):

. Yeah.

Chris Logan: (19:52):

Come on. Trying to make, trying to keep it light. We'll try to keep it. I know,

Drew Slocum: (19:55):

Right. Uh, they, uh, the night or a few days before, they got an autograph from the NBA player that, um, came down with it from the Utah Jets Wild. So the whole daycare is now in quarantine, self quarantine for whatever, 18 days. And that's literally right down the street from us. So, I don't know, but nothing in, nothing in eastern Connecticut where we're at. But, uh, that's in Western Rhode Island, which we're on the border of. So, um, right. Yeah, it's, I don't know. It's, uh, luckily I, I have some friends, a lot of friends in New York City and some in Boston, and, um, you know, New York City, it's, you know, people, a lot of people can work from home there, but mo most people are in the indu in industry or service industry. So I don't know anything tied to restaurants is, is, uh, it's tough.

Chris Logan: (20:51):

Yep.

Drew Slocum: (20:52):

So

Chris Logan: (20:53):

It's, uh, even like small town, I live in small town, like 32, 3300 people. Uh, there's two major restaurants in town. They're doing takeout only. And actually the big one, I think just said, you know what, they're sending our people home closed. There's no takeout or anything.

Drew Slocum: (21:10):

And I, I, I've heard, you know, in our industry, or not the sprinkler side, but the fire protection side is tied to that because you have all these suppression, these Ansel, sorry, Ansel Amax, whatever the, you know, uh, wet and dry chemical systems that are, that are tied to these restaurants. So, you know, those businesses are, you know, within a day disrupted across the us Yep. It's, it's, it's not hopefully, hopefully diversified. And, uh, I, I have heard some great stories from this though. We, we had a, um, one of our customers sent us a note the other day that they, um, they have a, uh, some, one of their, one of their kids has a, a severe respiratory problem. And, um, because of inspect point, they're able to work from home and able to continue on their business. So it was, it was a really good, you know, there's a lot of positives, like you said, are coming out of this. So, um, yeah, crazy. It's a

Chris Logan: (22:13):

Balance. It's gonna be a balancing act for everybody over the next, the next six weeks I think is gonna be crucial for our industry. Um, trying to figure out how to, not manipulate, but try to adjust and try to make it so that our, we, we have newer, better systems in place to prevent future, uh, illnesses from spreading across the community. Um, as well as just gives everybody trying to pause, right? Everybody just kinda look at the way we're doing things. Is there a way that we can do things better? Yep. And that's what I've, that's what I've been doing for my company, just kinda looking at things and how can, how can we take this slow down to improve our processes and operations?

Drew Slocum: (22:58):

Oh yeah. Yep. Yeah. I I, it is funny, uh, three weeks ago, I think it's this point, there was an FS F S S A conference, fire Suppression Systems Association down in, uh, down near Disney World. And it was a great, great show. Got to see a lot of clean agent, a lot of different, and they do everything. There was a, there's some Canadian companies there, Troy, Troy, life and Fire Safety were there. They there maybe a couple others as well. But, um, anyway, um, the keynote speaker wrote a book called Rock the Recession, and this is literally like two and a half weeks ago. So I'm, I'm like reading this book now, rock the Recession to get your business. And a lot of it's geared toward contractors. And if you don't have a good plan ready, um, and you don't have to have it all always written down, but at least in your mind of what, what do you do? What do you do if your largest customer all of a sudden or your largest income stream just leaves? So, um, I don't know. It's, it, it, it's really eerie that that happened like two and a half weeks ago and now we're in the, we're in the boat where it's definitely a recession, but how, how deep is it gonna go?

Chris Logan: (24:10):

Right. Where do you see it as a, um, technology provider? Like, uh, essentially you're an industry, I won't say an industry assisting cause you help out the fire protection industry. How do you see a lot of the smaller contractors like myself as well as the bigger contractors, uh, getting to the other side of the hill?

Drew Slocum: (24:32):

Well, I'm, I'm gonna reference some of the book here, but, um, you know, the biggest thing that, uh, so construction's heavily tied to new construction in fire, sprinkler alarm, and even on the suppression. And definitely on the suppression side too, what'll get you through the other side is the inspection and service. So if you have a good balance in your portfolio, that's what, yes, you're gonna have to downsize on the other side, but that's what pays the bills and what's gonna keep money coming in, revamp your business in the process. And then you come out when that, when that new construction picks up again, you're, you're coming out and you have a bigger platform on, on your service side. Um, and generally that's higher profit as well. So, um, cuz you're not dealing with a gc, you're dealing more with an owner getting, you know, emergency services and, and things like that. So, um, if you have that good balance right now, perfect it if, you know, if you've gotta, you've gotta scale up. But if, if you're 90% new construction, 10%, you know, service, it's gonna, it's gonna be a big hit, I think. Mm-hmm. .

(25:44)
So, but the other side of that sales marketing, that's what they said, you know, is well in the book, is a lot of money gets taken out of the, uh, you know, taken out of, uh, different businesses. So they, they pull back on anything they don't need. Sales and marketing could be potential to, to really, to really drive that, you know, and it's not, it's not right away, you know, recessions last, if I had a crystal ball, I'd be a, a billionaire, but , I don't, I don't think this one's going any, uh, way anytime soon.

Chris Logan: (26:18):

No, it's, its, you know, we've said it a couple times an now already. It's day to day. Yeah. We have no idea where it's gonna be in the week. We have no idea where it's gonna be in months. We have, you know, it's, uh, it's crazy times we've been using, um, you know, all our office staff is working from home, all of our office staff. That's

Drew Slocum: (26:37):

Great. That's great. You're geared up for that. What I've been hearing in a lot of contractors, uh, what I've, I've talked, I've been talking to a lot of them. A lot of them didn't even, some of 'em didn't even have laptops for their employees. So it's like, oh man, you know, and then I talked to my cousin who's in, who's in like digital technology, sales and laptops and everything are back ordered, like beyond where anything's ever been.

Chris Logan: (27:04):

I haven't been to Best Buy because I've been trying to stay home as often as possible. I'm sure it's, I'm sure it's bare, right?

Drew Slocum: (27:10):

Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Chris Logan: (27:14):

So it's, uh, it's crazy times. The only thing we can tell everybody is to, it's, uh, you know, wash your damn hands, , stay at home. Yeah. Keep your family safe. But really the, do we have any specific advice for fire protection people right now? No. Just stay safe and, uh, you know, just pay attention.

Drew Slocum: (27:34):

It's stay safe. But like you said before, like what you're doing is taking some time to reflect and see what, what you need to do in the short term and what you need to do in the medium term. And you're gonna have, I think everybody's gonna have some time on their hands in the next couple weeks, so, you know, you have some time to reflect on that. Don't, and stay positive. Wash your damn hands. Yes, definitely. But I think positivity will, um, will get you out of it, right?

Chris Logan: (28:02):

Yep. Exactly. Um, what else, uh, do you have anything else you wanna, you wanna talk about before we get off here? Like you just, you know, you reached out, you wanted to talk generally about the situation with Covid 19 and how the industry is gonna, you know, potentially get through this, but, uh, I don't think neither of us have an answer for how the industry's gonna get through this or what we can do other than just, you know, stick it out. I

Drew Slocum: (28:29):

Mean, we're, try fire and life safety I think is pretty safe industry being, um, a new, new, new commercial construction and residential construction. It'll take a, it'll take a dip, but it'll definitely come back. So,

Chris Logan: (28:42):

Right.

Drew Slocum: (28:43):

You take, say, you know, you're gonna put out some podcasts right in the next

Chris Logan: (28:47):

I'm, I'm planning on, you know, there's gonna be a lot of industry people that aren't out or aren't are working, so I'm assuming there's gonna be a lot of people that want to talk sprinkler. And that's, uh, you know, that's my bread and butter. I'll talk sprinkler all day. Yeah. So if there's anybody out there again that wants to come on and, and talk about a new product or talk about a new procedure or, or an idea or anything, any suggestions for anybody out there that's kinda losing their mind with this lockdown, uh, reach out to me or, I'm sure Drew's looking for people to talk to as well. Oh yeah. Yep. Uh, reach out to either of us, your preferred podcast. Maybe we'll say that, man, , let, let's get content out there for people in the industry to, you know, stay involved and not kinda, not fall off the map, but fall off the map, but keep everybody interested.

Drew Slocum: (29:35):

Yeah. I've got two geared up. I think for next week. We have a bunch of webinars that we're doing internally to, to try to keep people not in touch or even progress. So stay in tune with that. But I would, I would love any ideas. And again, we're all, uh, we're all in the same boat. And the quicker we do this, I think the quicker this thing is over and we're back. We're

Chris Logan: (29:56):

Back

Drew Slocum: (29:56):

Strong times.

Chris Logan: (29:57):

Stay wash your dam hands. Let's get back to work here as soon as we can.

Drew Slocum: (30:00):

Yeah. All right.

Chris Logan: (30:03):

Awesome.

Drew Slocum: (30:04):

Cheers, Chris. All right.

Chris Logan: (30:05):

True. Yep. We'll talk again soon here. Look at,

Drew Slocum: (30:08):

Look at that. There you go,

Chris Logan: (30:10):

. Have a good one. Uh, as soon as we get off fun, go wash your damn hands.

Drew Slocum: (30:15):

Sounds good. Thanks for listening to episode 19 of the Fire Protection Podcast. Chris Logan from the Fire Sprinkler podcast, and I had a, had a great time on Friday and wanted to, uh, thank all, all the listeners out there that have been supporting us over, over the last couple years and about a year with us. But Chris has been doing this the longest. So, uh, yeah, big shout out to him. And again, stay in touch. Feel free to reach out to either of us. Uh, we're always willing to talk about whatever topic, especially we have some, uh, downtime the next couple weeks. So again, hope you enjoyed and come back soon.