LOST: Down the Hatch | Season 2, Episode 12: “Fire + Water”

LOST: Down the Hatch | Season 2, Episode 12: “Fire + Water”

Josh Wigler (@roundhoward) and Mike Bloom (@AMikeBloomType) pour some water on the fire known as “Fire + Water,” the twelfth episode of LOST season two — and the worst episode of LOST, ever.

In “The Hunting Party,” Jack (Matthew Fox), Sawyer (Josh Holloway) and Locke (Terry O’Quinn) trek through the jungle on a mission to find Michael (Harold Perrineau), who has run off to find his son. What they find is something else entirely: the Others — specifically, Mr. Friendly (M.C. Gainey). It’s one of the most iconic scenes from season two, but is it enough to put “The Hunting Party” in elite status? Josh and Mike weigh that in their latest LOST recap.

About Down the Hatch …

LOST: Down the Hatch is a full-tilt spoiler-filled rewatch of LOST. Every week, Josh and Mike break down an episode of LOST with the benefit of knowing the series’ full trajectory, using the following structure as a guide:

• We Go “Fourth” – Josh and Mike begin each podcast with a deep-dive into the story both in front of and behind the camera, and they do so with the assistance of…
• 8 Sounds – The events of LOST pop right off the camera and straight into your ears with eight memorable moments replayed on the podcast, helping us guide through the story;
• 15/16 Others – Josh and Mike answer questions and comments sent their way through the official e-mail address: downthehatch@postshowrecaps.com
• 23 Points – Each week, Josh and Mike hand out points for the best and worst characters of the episode in question, in a foolhardy attempt to determine the most and least valuable players in the LOST pantheon.
• 4.2 Stars – Josh and Mike will attempt to create an official Down the Hatch ranking of every episode of LOST, by rating them all on a scale from 0 – 4.2. Josh and Mike will offer their individual scores, listeners’ scores will be averaged as a third data point, then the three points will be combined for the podcast’s official score on each episode.

Each episode of Down the Hatch clocks in at no less than 108 minutes. If the podcast falls short of that runtime, Josh and Mike have triggered a crisis! Consequences may (and almost certainly will) ensue thanks to the Frozen Donkey Wheel.

Additional reading/listening/viewing from the podcast:

• The LOST: Down the Hatch Wikipedia Page
• Josh’s LOST Episode Rankings (The Hollywood Reporter)
• Lost Will and Testament (Javier Grillo Marxuach)
• Eko and Ana (Deleted Scene)
• Libby and Hurley (Deleted Scene)
• “The Saw” (Deleted Scene)
• Fire + Water script (Daily Script)
• The Making of Fire + Water (Anatomy of an Episode)
• “Fire + Water” Music Analysis (Jim Fels)

The 23 Points Character Tracker for Season Two

• Eko: 11
• Sayid: 6
• Jin: 3.5
• Ana-Lucia: 3
• Hurley: 2
• Shannon: 2
• Monster (Horse): 2
• Kate: 2
• Locke: 2
• Sun: 1.5
• Libby: 1
• Claire: 1
• Mr. Friendly: 1
• Jack: 1
• Michael: 1
• Rose: 1
• Bernard: 1
• Helen : 1
• Sam Austen: 1
• Yemi: 1
• Christian: 1
• Sarah: 0
• Desmond: 0
• Goodwin: 0
• Law & Order: 0
• Sawyer: 0
• Liam: -1
• Angelo: -1
• Ulu: -1
• Goldie: -1
• Heroin: -4
• The Others: -1
• Donald: -1
• Cindy: -1
• Nathan: -1
• Mr. Rutherford: -1
• Johnny: -1
• Jae-hyun Lee: -1
• Randy Nations: -2
• Susan: -2
• Anthony Cooper: -2
• Fiancé Douche: -3
• Mr. Kim (Jin’s boss): -4
• Sabrina: -4
• Jason McCormack: -4
• Wayne: -5
• Charlie: -5

The 4.2 Star Episode Rankings for Season Two

1. Man of Science, Man of Faith
2. The 23rd Psalm
3. Orientation
4. The Other 48 Days
5. The Hunting Party
6. Collision
7. And Found
8. What Kate Did
9. Everybody Hates Hugo
10. Abandoned
11. Adrift
12. Fire + Water

Previous Down the Hatch Episodes:

• In Which We Go Back
• Last Call Before the Rewatch
• Season 1, Episodes 1 + 2: “Pilot, Part 1 + 2”
• Season 1, Episode 3: “Tabula Rasa”
• Season 1, Episode 4: “Walkabout”
• Season 1, Episode 5: “White Rabbit”
• Season 1, Episode 6: “House of the Rising Sun”
• Season 1, Episode 7: “The Moth”
• Season 1, Episode 8: “Confidence Man”
• Season 1, Episode 9: “Solitary”
• Season 1, Episode 10: “Raised by Another”
• Season 1, Episode 11: “All the Best Cowboys Have Daddy Issues”
• Season 1, Episode 12: “Whatever the Case May Be”
• Season 1, Episode 13: “Hearts and Minds”
• Season 1, Episode 14: “Special”
• Season 1, Episode 15: “Homecoming”
• Season 1, Episode 16: “Outlaws”
• Season 1, Episode 17: “…In Translation”
• Season 1, Episode 18: “Numbers”
• Season 1, Episode 19: “Deus Ex Machina”
• Season 1, Episode 20: “Do No Harm”
• Season 1, Episode 21: “The Greater Good”
• Season 1, Episode 22: “Born to Run”
• Season 1 Feedback Special
• Season 2, Episode 1: “Man of Science, Man of Faith”
• Season 2, Episode 2: “Adrift”
• Season 2, Episode 3: “Orientation”
• Season 2, Episode 4: “Everybody Hates Hugo”
• Season 2, Episode 5: “…And Found”
• Season 2, Episode 6: “Abandoned”
• Season 2, Episode 7: “The Other 48 Days”
• Season 2, Episode 8: “Collision”
• Season 2, Episode 9: “What Kate Did”
• Season 2, Episode 10: “The 23rd Psalm”
• Season 2, Episode 11: “The Hunting Party”
• The Season 1 Book Club
• RPG Episode #1: “Autopilot”
• RPG Episode #2: “The Other Other 48 Days”
• The Lindeloff, Vol. 1
• The DJ DOM Exposéd Party