Interchangeable White Ladies Podcast
Society & Culture:Personal Journals
Ep. 70: On Creating a “Beloved Community” with Kelly Wickham Hurst
Note to listeners: This episode was recorded prior to the corona outbreak in the US so you will not hear any discussion of its impact on this particular topic.
EQ: How can we better understand the double-taxation facing black educators and students in US schools?
Guest: Kelly Wickham Hurst is the founder and CEO of Being Black at School and author of blog Mocha Momma
Recorded in late February, Kelly joined us for an interview while returning home from a conference. In this episode, Kelly recounts her experiences as a woman of color and her journey through education--first as a student and then eventually as a teacher, principal, and district leader. She delves into the double-taxation on Black educators and students and the trauma experienced in public schools. Her current work with Being Black at School sets an example for the rest of us about what it means to develop policies that center the priorities and needs of Black students. “You have to be in right relationships with your white folks and white folks you need to be reconciled with your people of color.”
Advice for those trying to mitigate the double-taxation on Black educators and students:
Do our own work
Collect each other (take responsibility)
Avoid deficits thinking in the way you discuss students & families
Champagne 🥂 & Real Pain 👎🏻
🥂 Monise Seward, shea martin
🥂All the amazing Black women who’ve taken the time to come on the show and help us #belessbasic
👎🏻 Betsy DeVos
👎🏻 Those in positions of power actively causing harm
Do Your Fudging HW:
Hope: Read Pushout: The Criminalization of Black Girls in Schools
Annie: “What you can do”
Kelly: Bettina Love “We Want to Do More than Survive”, The Color of Law and other books from #ClearTheAirEdu (check out their website) and Cornelius Minor’s book We Got This
You can find Kelly on Twitter
Follow us on Twitter @IWL_Podcast or Facebook: Interchangeable White Ladies Podcast
Lastly, don’t forget to pick up your copy of The Body is Not an Apology for #readlessbasic book club
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