Ep 373: Dialogue | Campfire Convos | Jean | Catholic Converts Versus Indoctrination

Recorded: 27 December 2019 Uploaded: 4 January 2020 Released: 11 January 2020 Re-Released: 14 January 2020 (with explanation) Watch video here: https://youtu.be/reCZtNAGFUo Join the Discord server for next time! Link: https://discord.gg/eVX3MCe Twitter: @centratheist Email: se.convos@gmail.com Practicing Street Epistemology by "campfire". Some of the videos on this channel, including this one, illustrate "Collaborative Street Epistemology", where other SEers ask the questions to friends/family members via Discord. The interlocutor in this video is a family friend, Jean. She lives across the street and has been a good friend of the family for a number of years. For this Collaborative SE session, we had @SE After Dark (the Live session moderator) speak aloud during the down times so that she could communicate with the Discord audience the direction she wanted to see this conversation go. Then, the Discorders will typed their questions - which appear on the left side in this video, and the questions that she picked (based on relevance) will pop up on the right side of this video. Those are the questions that the Interviewer (me) asked Jean along the way. Before we started, Jean chose to not be shown on camera, so her face is blurred. I asked her if she wanted to participate only 24 hours prior to this talk, and she knew nothing of SE. I did, however, tell her that strangers on the internet would be asking her questions about deeply held beliefs! In the end, she enjoyed the talk and was happy to have done it. As a general rule, I leave conversations intact, so as to not be accused of cutting out some important part of the IL’s belief… however, I cut out some of this talk, with Jean’s approval. Perhaps one thing this session illustrates is an answer to the question “should SE always strive to gently challenge someone about their beliefs no matter what, or when there are times when people that are hanging onto deeply held beliefs mostly because it makes them feel better - should we back away so that the IL doesn’t risk being challenged too deeply on something that helps them get through their day or life?" I think this talk illustrates a time when it’s best to not let the Socratic method interfere with a belief that makes someone feel better in certain situations. SKIP TO 40:09 TO SEE HOW THIS PLAYS OUT AT THE END OF THIS TALK. Jean - Topic: A Convert has stronger faith/conviction than someone born into religion + 100% confidence that God exists. Timestamps for main topic changes (Add 35 seconds if listening to the podcast version of this talk): 3:33 Claim about Converts vs. Indoctrinations 20:47 Claim about God’s existence 40:09 answer to “the question” regarding whether SE should always gently challenge beliefs Respect: It's possible that my interlocutor will read the comments, so be respectful. Join us next time on the SE (Collaborative) Discord: https://bit.ly/sebyfire and be sure to check out the main SE Discord server: https://biy.ly/streetepi twitter: @centratheist email: se.convos@gmail.com Music provided by Jim Rhodes, with Dan Harris on lap steel.