David and Katie chat with Dr. Ross Lockwood about the workflows he used while spending four months as part of a NASA-funded simulation studying what it would be like for humans to live on Mars.
We're also announcing the end of our run on 5by5 and the show's future.
Thanks to MPU listener [Jigar Talati](https://twitter.com/thescarbro) for help with the shownotes this week!
view more