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You and Me Forever (Part 1) - Francis and Lisa Chan
You and Me Forever (Part 1) - Francis and Lisa Chan
You and Me Forever (Part 2) - Francis and Lisa Chan
You and Me Forever (Part 3) - Francis and Lisa Chan
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Marriage in Light of Eternity
Guests: Francis and Lisa Chan
From the series: You and Me Forever (Day 1 of 3)
Bob: You’ve heard the statistic that the divorce rate in the church is no different than the divorce rate outside of the church? Francis Chan says he’s not buying it.
Francis: Yes; I mean, I really believe there has never been a divorce between two Spirit-filled believers. They are using stats of everyone who goes to church / calls themselves a Christian, which—and, that’s what the Bible / that’s what Jesus says all the time: “I know you say that you are a believer. You call Me, ‘Lord,’ but why do you call Me, ‘Lord,’ when you don’t do what I say? [emphasis added]” You know, the whole book of 1 John is—it doesn’t matter that you say you know Him—because you don’t obey His commands, you are a liar.
Bob: This is FamilyLife Today for Monday, January 22nd. Our host is Dennis Rainey; I’m Bob Lepine. To make a marriage work, Francis and Lisa Chan say it takes more than two—more than you and me. We’ll talk with them about that today. Stay with us.
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Now, I’ve got to be honest with you, Dennis. I have always wanted to meet one of our guests today, because I’ve always wanted to meet the woman who could be married to Francis Chan; you know? [Laughter]
Dennis: Yes; I’ve wondered that as well! So, Lisa, welcome to the broadcast. [Laughter]
Lisa: Thank you very much.
Dennis: You’ve kind of wondered that, too, by now; haven’t you?
Lisa: Yes; what did I get myself into?—no. [Laughter]
Dennis: Well, he’s a good man, Francis.
Lisa: Yes; he is!
Dennis: Welcome back.
Francis: Thank you.
Dennis: We’ve had you on the broadcast, and we have battled—
Francis: Yes.
Dennis: —the soapbox in the middle of the table and the microphones as we talked about the Holy Spirit a number of years ago.
Francis: That’s right.
Dennis: But you guys have written a fresh book called You and Me Forever.
3:00
It’s subtitled, Marriage in Light of Eternity. Now, you may not know this, but our Weekend to Remember marriage getaway begins talking about the glory of God / the transcendent purpose of marriage as God intended it. Couples are learning that marriage is about more than just “you and me.”
Bob: And most people think it’s about them; don’t they?
Francis: Yes; marriage is such a small part of this bigger picture in Scripture.
Bob: But be honest; you didn’t have the bigger picture when you went to Lisa and proposed; did you?
Francis: No, no, no; not at all.
Dennis: You thought it was about you two; didn’t you?
Francis: Oh, yes! Absolutely.
Bob: Tell us how you guys met and tell us how he popped the question, Lisa.
Lisa: Well, I knew the worship pastor at the church that Francis was working at, at the time. He and I had kind of grown up at the same church—the worship pastor. So, he had me come over and sing. He, actually, is the one who started feeding both of us these lines of—for me, it was: “You’ve got to stop dating anyone else. Francis is the one for you.”
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He was so confident! Dan, we thank you still. [Laughter] So, I came over—started going to the church a lot to play lead in their Christmas musical. Francis kind of found a way to ask me out.
Francis: Yes; I asked if I could be a stage manager. I told—I was honest with the worship pastor—I go: “I don’t really care about your play. I want to meet this girl.” [Laughter]
Dennis: So, you paid off the guy, Dan, and told him to arrange the marriage?
Francis: Oh, yes. He just gave me a little headset and said: “Hey, go. Meet her.”—you know? [Laughter] I seriously had no responsibilities except to ask her out. [Laughter]
Bob: So, how did you—how long, after you asked her out, before you proposed?
Dennis: No, no. I want to find out about the first date. Lisa?
Lisa: Oh, the first date was great, because he planned it w...
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