#192 - What You're Doing with author Rich Tupica (There Was A Light: The cosmic history of Chris Bell and the Rise of Big Star)

One of the first songs The Beatles worked on for their fourth record, Beatles for Sale, ended up being one of the last ones they finished, and along the way, I argue, the create the blueprint for what becomes power-pop. A catchy, repeating guitar riff on a jangly 12-string, a signature drum part, earnest, powerful, heart-on-the-sleeve vocals, and MELODY MELODY MELODY. "What You're Doing" may not be the high-water mark on the album, but it's impact on bands would be felt for generations to come.

One of those bands who followed that blueprint, and then fine-tuned it themselves was Memphis's Big Star. We're joined this week by author Rich Tupica, who's book "There Was A Light: The Cosmic History of Chris Bell and the rise of Big Star" is a brilliantly written bio on Big Star founder Chris Bell, who often gets sidelined in the story for the more well known and cult-worshipped Alex Chilton. Together, Chris and Alex wrote all the material for the band's debut, #1 Record, fashioning themselves as a Lennon-McCartney-style writing team with Chris the embracing the melody and production values of McCartney, and Alex the chaos and immediacy of Lennon. The partnership didn't last, as Chris left after the album came out to no fanfare, fruitlessly pursuing a solo career, while the band forged on, putting out an additional 2 records that sank without much of a trace upon release. Over the years, the Big Star/Chris Bell catalog moved underground, a secret between musicians with a shared love of Beatle-esque pop/rock, until a 90s reunion and on-going resurgence brought the band the acclaim and notoriety that eluded them during their initial run. All 3 of their original albums, #1 Record, Radio City, and Third, rank in Rolling Stone's top 500 Albums of All Time list.

Rich's book can be purchased online or via your local bookstore. We suggest ordering locally if possible, and we can't recommend the book enough. Also, check out Rich's podcast Hanging on the Telephone (long-form phone conversations with creative people) and Inzane Michigan (a dive in the sights and sounds of Michigan).

This episode is a bit longer than usual, but Rich's knowledge of Big Star is impressive, and this music is as important, imho, as Beatles music, and I wanted to give it all the space it deserved. Non-Beatles songs featured in this episode are "In The Street," "Feel," "Septmber Gurls," I'm So Tired," "Thirteen," and "O My Soul" by Big Star, "I Am The Cosmos," and "You And Your Sister" by Chris Bell (the latter featuring Alex Chilton), and "The Letter" by The Boxtops.

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