1.20 – Ryan introduces Adele Shaw and her bio that is driven by her passion for horses. 3.22 - Adele thanks Ryan and they discuss the challenges that occurred at the start of 2020. 6.00 – Ryan aske Adele to take us back to where she first started her journey with positive reinforcement training. 11.55 – Adele explains the particular problems that she experienced with the horse she was training. 19.50 – Ryan asks if Adele is influenced by the local horse community in Texas and the thoughts on her using clicker training. 25.00 – Adele discusses the courage, bravery and her learning process that was required to make the change in her training methods. 32.10 – Ryan asks if she sees a difference in herself and how she views herself in the process. Adele details how she is now less goal orientated in tasks and the evolution and stages that she has worked through in her learning. 39.00 – Adele discusses what she learnt from understanding her growth mindset, looking into choice and control, and the experience of studying with Susan Freidman on the LLA course. 43.20 – Adele unpacks what she means by terrifying for her when she is using and learning new information and skills. 48.30 – Ryan asks if Adele teaches her mindset to others and how she goes about this. 53.25 – Adele discusses that she needed all of her experiences to be where she is now, including any experience of failures that have taken place. 1.11.10 – Ryan and Adele wrap up with explaining that the human learner needs to be in the growth mindset to explore all opportunities.
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