This episode's guest is Andrew Ferren. Andrew and I know each other from high school. He is a part owner of '85 Bar in the East Village of Des Moines, as well as a drummer, a wedding photographer, and so much more. Listen in as we talk about connections, relationships, and that it isn't always what you know; its who.
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