Dr Sherri Tenpenny - The Tenpenny Files, RFK Jr, Tucker Carlson and Health Security

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In this chat we discuss her regular show, 'The Tenpenny Files' and some of her latest guests including David Icke.
We then unpack her recent website article, "5 Aspects of Personal Security" and we discuss the cancellation of Tucker Carlson and the presidential bid of Robert F Kennedy Jr.
Tucker having been removed by Fox and the truth has yet to come out while RFK Jr has announced his candidacy for the Democrat Presidential Nomination.
How will all this change the debate on vaccines?
So join us for this special episode as Dr Tenpenny gives her views on all this and more, together we can keep the conversation going.

Dr Sherri Tenpenny’s mission is to save lives and more importantly, to save souls.
To be the voice for those who are silenced and to educate the uninformed.
To shine light, expose the dark and advocate for those who have been harmed by the
medical industry.
Sherri is an osteopathic medical doctor, board certified in three medical specialties.
Widely regarded as the most knowledgeable and outspoken physician on the adverse impact that vaccines can have on health.
She has been a guest on hundreds of radio and national television programs.
Sherri has lectured at Cleveland State University and Case Western Reserve Medical School, and has been a speaker at conventions, both nationally and internationally, as a recognized expert on a wide range topics within the field of Integrative Medicine.
Dr. Tenpenny is the author of several books, including best seller, 'Saying No To Vaccines'.
She is contributing author for several other books including 'Textbook of Food and Nutrients in Disease Management'.
Her articles for magazines have been published in over 10 languages around the world.
From 1986 to 1998, she was a full time Emergency Medicine physician and the director of the Emergency Department in Findlay, Ohio.
Dr. Tenpenny’s corporate experience includes serving as the Medical Director at Sanoviv Medical Center, a 40-bed hospital located in Rosarita, Mexico in 2008 and Chief Medical Consultant for Parker Hannifin, a Fortune 250 Company with 60,000 employees in 48 countries, from 2012 to 2014.
Currently, she attends to patients two days per week at Tenpenny Integrative Medical Center, located in Cleveland, Ohio, where patients from nearly all 50 states and 17 countries have gotten well using a combination of conventional and holistic therapies.

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Interview recorded 9.5.23

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Now, we talk about lots of things with Dr. Tenpenny, talk about the Tenpenny Files podcast, she puts out regularly. Her past one, latest one was David Icke, so we discussed that.
And then we go into five aspects of personal security, and this was an article she put up on her website, and it looks at health security, food security, financial security, home security, and spiritual security. So we delve into those and what those mean for her personally. And then we finish up on Tucker Carlson and Robert Kennedy Jr., different sides of the political spectrum.
One is championing truth using media and Robert Kennedy Jr. is now running for Democratic presidential nominee and I asked Dr. Sherri Tenpenny what were her thoughts on that. A lot packed in as always and you will love listening to Dr. Sherri Tenpenny and thank you for downloading, thank you for listening, Thank you for passing on all those podcasts to friends, family.
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And here is Dr. Tenpenny

And hello, Hearts of Oak. It is wonderful to have Dr. Sherri Tenpenny back with us, I think for the third time. Dr. Tenpenny, thank you for your time today.

(Dr Sherri Tenpenny)

Oh, thank you so much for having me.

Not at all. And of course, everyone can find you @BusyDrT, which is on the screen there on Twitter, Gab, Truth Social.
There are other social media sites and you can get a full list on drtenpenny.com.
You can go there and go to the more section and the social media and get a whole list of everywhere, including Rumble, CloutHub, all the video sections.
So everything is there on the website, which makes it so much easier.
But Dr. Tenpenny, I saw a number of your recent guests on Tenpenny Files podcast.
And David Icke I saw as your most recent, and just before that was Peter McCullough.
Do you wanna just tell us a little bit about your guests and how subscribing and actually paying a monthly subscription actually benefits you and helps you to continue doing what you're doing?

Well, you know what they say is it takes a village to raise a child.
Well, it takes a village to run a big organization.
You know, we have lots of podcasts. I do seven podcasts a week.
We have lots of other things that we do in terms of our online stores.
A lot of the writing that I do, I do two substacks a week. And then I do a lot of travel and speaking at conferences.
And there's just a big organization that is behind that. And people frequently say to me, what can we do to support you?
I mean, how can we, how can we help? Well, there's two things. I always tell people that that are the best number one please be sure to keep us all in your prayers. I mean, it's really important, you know the work that we do we have to stay healthy. We have to stay safe, We've always got people that are always coming after us whether it's a state medical board or whether it's you know online trolls or whether it's fact-checkers or whoever the heck it is, you know.
So praying for our health and welfare and safety is number one and we're greatly appreciative for that, The other is if you just support the things that we do.
I mean, if you're gonna buy vitamins anyways, we appreciate you shopping with us.
You know, I always love our swag and the things that we have inside of our store.
In fact, I always tell people, you know, I buy my own stuff.
I buy my own swag, you know? So this is a cup that I use.
It says, normal isn't coming back, but Jesus is.
And so, you know, I got my own t-shirts and sweatshirts and I literally purchase them.
They don't come to me for free.
So we do that. And then our podcasts, there's four different levels.
If you go to drtenpenny.com and you hover over the podcast tab, there's four different levels of podcasts.
And we've done that to sort of respect people's times and people's budgets, because there's lots of podcasts that people want to listen to, and there's lots of things that they want, and maybe they've only got limited time.
So there's four different levels that you can do that to support us.
You know, if you join the premium podcast members, you get, not only do you get all of the, this week with Dr. T, we do a special podcast every week.
It's called The Deep Dive with Dr. T, which I think two of the podcasts that you were referring to with David Icke and Peter McCullough, and it's for every one of our guests that we do the online broadcast on Monday morning at 9 a.m.
It's called This Week with Dr. T, which is sort of a what's going on in your life and tell us about your book and what you're kind of doing, what do you think about politics and things like that.
And then The Deep Dive is a second one only for our premium podcast members that talks about, we do an interview with people on a much more personal level because a lot of people know us from our stage presence or by our reputation, like they know me talking about vaccines and things like that, but they don't really know who you are. And so I start the first question on the deep dive. Where were you born?
Tell us a bit about your childhood. And how did you decide to go to be fill-in-the-blank, an astrophysicist a doctor or whatever?
It is and some of those things that come out that you learn about people you just had no idea because you know them as this like David Icke is this big, you know, personality that's been a big writer and been around for a long time, been quite controversial and then when you ask them about what really motivates you what keeps you going in this fight, I mean, what do you see is the biggest problem in the world?
And when you're not working, what do you like to do for fun?
You know, and those are the kinds of questions that we do on the deep dives.
And so those are only for our premium podcast members.
And I took some time off in them in April for another project.
I was working on and I needed to get some rest quite honestly.
And so we played some of the deep dive.
We played some of the deep dive interviews that just to kind of show people what they get as part of their premium podcast benefit.
They also get 15% discounts on all of the supplements and on the on the swag that we sell and we do lots of four-part courses.
That they get lifetime access to for educational benefits.
And so we really try to make it a win-win, you know, when they support us financially, we try to provide back to them things that they really want.
And on Friday, we have an email that's called Friday Focus, that's usually topically related.
So on Friday, say, I think last week was about kids. So we had an article about children, And then there would be a vitamin and maybe a vaccine course.
And we're affiliates with MyPillow. And MyPillow has these really cool childhood pillowcases that have Bible stories on them so that when you put your kid to bed at night, you can talk about Noah and the Ark.
You can talk about those sorts of things. And so we make it educational, informational, and promotional because we can't do this for free. And we have a lot of people who say, I can't believe you're not doing this for the cause.
And I always like to say back to them, well, do you have a job? Yes.
Well, then this is what I'd like you to do. I would like you to go to your boss this week and say to your boss, for the next month, I am gonna work for no paycheck.
I'm gonna work for free, just for the cause of this company, just to make sure this company's going.
And of course, I don't get any takers, that sort of thing. But you know, it kind of puts it in context.
You know, this is work, it's the time, it's what we do. It's like the same for you.
I mean, people don't understand that when you have an online business, there's a lot of expenses that go along with it.
And when you do podcasting, there's a lot of expenses and a lot of work that goes behind that because they're seeing the final product. So we try to make it mutually beneficial that we provide things. We do surveys quite frequently asking people, what do you want? What do you like? What do you not like? What do you wish we'd stop talking about? You know, things like that. So we try to make it beneficial.
So if people are interested, they can go to drtenpenny.com and hover over the podcast tab and see what's there. And you can see all the special events that are there and you can pick and choose what you want.

Tell me, because on the front of your website, DrTenpenny.com, you say doctor and voice of reason about vaccines and current events. And it's intriguing watching, as we've all watched the last three years unfold, people bringing their expertise into the vaccine side, into the harms, into all of that development. But then that widening, because realizing what has happened over the last three years actually is that, but also much more. What is it like for you? I'm always intrigued talking to individuals as doctors that actually have widened up past the simple medical side to other events that are happening that feed into that. Can you just kind of talk into that thinking, that understanding, and that widening your approach?

Well, I've been doing this for 23 years, so it was just a natural extension for me to go from talking about the paediatric childhood schedule and the problems with that, and that there's no such thing as safe, there's no such thing as effective, there's no such thing as necessary, and that all shots, no matter which one you're talking about, can all cause harm. And I started into that realm, I would say took a deep dive in that rabbit hole But way back in September of 2000 and I've written several books and I've done hundreds if not thousands of interviews on Podcasts and television and etc on that. So when the COVID shots came out, it was just a natural, extension, lateral move extension to me to go, oh, what's this all about? And you know, I understood from, day one. I mean, I remember in March of 2020 when this all started to roll out, I mean in the very first, you know news conference that had Trump and Birx and you know Fauci and the crew and I remember, you know sitting upstairs in my upstairs office where I'm sitting at the computer like this and the television is like right over there and I'm watching it and I'm thinking whoo, this is really bad. You know, this is really a spiritual warfare that we're about to engage in and, You know, we better roll up our sleeves and get busy and so I prayed about it and I said Lord, what do you want me to do with this?
I mean, you know, I've been doing all these things for the last 23 years.
Like now what?
And I just in my spirit just heard him say back to me, carpet bomb the neighborhood.
I was like, what does that mean?
So I looked up the word carpet bomb. You know, it's like I always say when, you know, I say this frequently, the thoughts are things, words have power and definitions are important.
So when I looked up carpet bomb, what it says is is massively as wide and bright, broad and deep as you possibly can in the shortest period of time, do whatever it is you're going to do.
I'm paraphrasing, but that gives you the idea.
So I'm like, okay, so that means I need to do a lot of this.
So I contacted Michelle, my assistant, and I said, roll up your sleeves, buttercup.
You know, and buckle up, we're going to really be flying here. So in 18 months, I did over 600 interviews. And just to put that in context for your listeners, I usually do about 30 a year.
So I did over 600, just warning people about the myth of the mask, the nonsense of the social distancing, the fraud and danger of the PCR testing, and what was coming through these experimental shots. And in May of 21, I did a webinar called the 20 Mechanisms of Injury of how the COVID shots can harm you or can make you chronically sick or kill you.
Bad planning on my part, that happened. I plugged it in on Mother's Day weekend, and I had all these people who said to me, could you do it again? I really wasn't available for that. So we did it again in July, and by then I came up with 20 more mechanisms of injury, so a total of 40 mechanisms of injury of how the COVID shots can make you chronically sick or kill you. And it was really, really broadly and widely accepted. I had a lot of people that enrolled in that webinar. That was in July of 21. And it was been so interesting to me from July of 21, rolling forward all the rest through 21, 22, and now into 23, seeing just the plethora, like almost like drinking from a fire hose of how many articles and documentation and things like,
things that like Ed Dowd is doing with the all-cause mortality and Peter McCullough is coughing out every day on his Substack and all of us that everything that is that has happened since then I saw that all and did it in July of 21. so I've watched this sort of continue to roll out and it's interesting of how many people that knew nothing about this who are are now like the superstars on the stage.
And they're kind of new to the game. They're kind of just kind of showing up to the last minute here, but hey, better late than never.
And if they can use their notoriety and their CV with their long list of credentials.
I mean, Peter McCullough has so many credentials behind his name.
It takes up two entire lines on a piece of paper to write all of his initials.
And honestly, I don't even know what most of them stand for.
And I'm a physician, but it's just, If you can use your level of criteria and your credentials to get mainstream media's attention, even if it's Fox, if it's not really CNN, whoever you can get that to happen.
Then that's gonna save lives and that's really what's important.

Dr. Tenpenny, you talked about kind of the political side of it and looking at the huge battle between the Democrats, Republicans over this.
And then into the mix steps, Robert Kennedy Jr. and announces as he is standing as a Democrat nominee for presidential candidate.
That intrigued me. I've obviously watched him, not much before, but actually over the last three years and been intrigued and inspired by a lot of what he's done. And then he announced his running for this candidacy for president. What are your thoughts on that? Kind of what he brings on the medical understanding?

Well, I've known Bobby personally for a long time. You know, we've had dinner together multiple times. We've shared the stage at various conferences. He's wicked smart.
He's really, really smart.
And he can rattle off that data and statistics and articles that he's read unlike almost anybody else I know.
I know that, I personally think he's being very brave.
And now that he's come out in the last couple of days and said, it's the CIA who killed my dad and my uncle.
I mean, I know that a lot of people early on said, Well, I hope that he's not the next Kennedy that's shot.
And because he's pretty fearless and for him to take such a strong stand, which he has for the last three years, about things that's all wrong about these mandates and these COVID shots.
He's been an environmental lawyer most of his career. And I heard him speak just the other day saying that, yes, I believe in the environment, but I do not believe in this green agenda.
I mean, it's just one more weaponizing thing against the American public.
Yes, do we need to do something about the environment? Yes, but that's not it.
You know and and I'm hoping that he'll be able because of he is a Kennedy And he is a democrat that is putting forth more of a conservative message, about the about the green movement about mandates about these shots and about, You know all the things and he wrote this whole book about Fauci, you know, like the real Fauci and I'm exposing that, that he will get air time on some of the mainstream shows you know talking shows and also interviews that and will put this information out in front of people who've just been CNN devotees this entire last three years and have no idea that there's another side to the story. So whether Bobby gets to the place where he's actually a candidate and a serious candidate as far as real politics go, I think between now and then he's going to do an amazing, wonderful job for humanity, for the American people.
I think he's being very brave for what he's doing, but he's pretty fearless because he just believes truth is truth and right is right.
And I think it's going to be a very, very interesting couple of, you know, few months leading up to this.
And I hope that mainstream media will really listen to him speak.
I mean, it's sort of like when Trump first came on the scene, nobody would let him speak either, you know?
And now we already, excuse me, we already know that one of Bobby's interviews, I mean, they cut out many of the things out of the interview that they didn't like, and they admitted that they cut it out because it went against their policy.
I mean, like, if that doesn't start waking more people up that, like I said, have been still claimed that they don't know or whatever, I don't think there's anything that can.
But I think that Bobby would, I think if he ever got to the place where he was actually elected as president.
I think he would be a very, very, he'd be kind of like Trump in terms that he would be a disruptor.
Because even though he's a Democrat, I mean, he's got his blood runs with the word Democrat in it.
I mean, literally, his family is the representative of the Democratic Party and always has been.
He doesn't tow the Democratic Party line, not even the JFK, his uncle's Democratic Party line.
So he's in because he spent so much time with all the rest of us that are kind of Trump conservatives, You know And he's got his own opinions about Trump and how that actually happened remember that Trump had approached him right early on and wanted to have him do this vaccine safety commission and, Bobby's side of that story is that he went back and put together a panel of people and contacted people and every time he went back to the Trump administration to try to move that forward he was stonewalled and sort of tossed underneath the bus.
And we've subsequently learned that that was probably Pfizer representatives that were kind of doing that.
But it could be very, very interesting as he moves forward into his political career.

Because what you have had so far, I guess, is a debate in the Republican side.
And a quite fierce debate moving over to scepticism and concern of the rollout.
But on the Democrat side, it's been absolute silence. So to have him dropped into that actual debate, I'm looking forward to having him as one of the candidates because he cannot be ignored.
And this issue is put out into that section of society that refuses to accept it.
So to me, it's really exciting.

Yeah, I agree. I think it's gonna be very interesting.
And when I said earlier about people praying for me, I think we should all be praying for Bobby, seriously for his safety and for his message, and for how he's gonna move forward into this deep state, horrible sort of political system that we find ourselves in these days.
It's gonna be interesting.

One of the things about getting message out, I guess, is media and obviously watching what's happened with Tucker Carlson, as none of us can see behind the curtain, not yet anyway.
Hopefully it'll all be revealed. But one of his recent interviews, I think he gave before he knew he was going to lose his job at Fox.
And he said, the media's job was not to inform you.
They're working for the small group of people who actually run the world.
They are the servants, and we should treat them with maximum contempt because they have earned it. I mean, it,
It's the media have a huge role in in the cover-up on the last three years and
I mean what are your thoughts about, because Tucker has always been, I thought was full-on wanting to talk the truth, been fully red-pilled, but I guess there were constraints there in a network. Now that he doesn't have those constraints, I'm quite excited about where he goes. I mean how have you viewed that as an individual and then the wider media debate?

I totally agree with you, you know, and I've listened to some of Tucker's offline interviews that he's had with people like yourself or other, you know, alternative media, people with platforms, and I've just listened to him talk about his background and his pursuit in truth, however that lands.
And it'll be interesting to see what he does when the chokehold is off, because he was really pushing the envelope.
It reminded me an awful lot of back, oh, how long ago was this now?
10, 12 years ago, when Glenn Beck was on Fox and how he really pushed the envelope, you know, with his big chalkboards and all the pictures and he was connecting all the dots.
He was really pushing the envelope in terms of calling out people in a spade a spade.
And I've kind of wondered if Tucker might join, you know, the Glenn Beck network or set up something similar on his own where he can just tout freedom of speech.
He can have anybody that he wants on a bit.
You know, I think that when he did the interview with Elon Musk and he did that full on interview with Trump. I mean, I think that the powers that be at Fox said that's enough. We just can't do this.

Completely. I just want to take a piece you put on, people can obviously find on the Substack, but also directly on the website. And one piece was five aspects of personal security.
And I want to pick on some of those that you started off by talking about health security.
And you said you can't have maximum security if you can't have good health.
And I think that's been brought to the fore over the last three years.
And then in that, you talk about your immune system and you talk about
different supplements that are taken, and I know this is an area that you've taken on, that you have products you promote. Do you want to tell us about that? Because I know some people look at it sceptically on supplements. Some people think, well, they eat enough, and then you realize actually a lot of the food you eat doesn't necessarily work its way right into your immune system, that is wasted. But tell us about your thoughts on that and how, I guess, the benefits of making sure you take supplements to maximize your immune system.

We always used to say, let your food be your medicine. And that's when you could get guaranteed good food, you know, that was actually vine-ripened, grown organically, not sprayed with with pesticides or this new stuff that they're calling apeal to make it stay around forever.
I mean, with this chemical E-471 in it, that we have no idea, there's no very little research on it even.
I mean, the patent itself says, we don't know what happens when you heat it and we don't know how much you can take and how much is dangerous and how much is not, but it doesn't really matter. We'll just spray it on all of our fruits, fruits and vegetables, right?
Kind of like the COVID shots. No long-term studies, no experimental trials, even in animal, but not to worry.
It's safe and effective, just take it.
So we used to be able to say food is our medicine. And when we could eat organic and eat vine ripened things, not things that were picked way prematurely and aged with chemicals, that would be really good.
But since our soils are depleted now, our soils are contaminated with things in the air.
When I grew up, I grew up on a farm and my father was a chiropractor, but he was what at the time they would call a resident farmer, which means that we had a big farm, but we rented out the land to local farmers to farm them.
And I just so remember this, Peter, that the cash crops that you would do is you would do corn, wheat, corn, wheat, corn, soy.
And in the seventh, you'd do corn, wheat, I'm sorry, corn, wheat, corn, wheat, corn, wheat.
And in the seventh year, you would do soy.
And what soy was at that point in time was that it was not a product.
It wasn't like a food in the health food industry or all these terrible things they've done with this horrible stuff they call soy.
It was ploughed it back into the soil.
So at the end of the season, when the soybeans would all dry out, the farmers would go in and plow it into the soil because the stuff that's in the beans and the stock and in the leaves, it had high levels of nitrogen in it.
And it was so restorative to the soil so that in the next round of corn, wheat, corn, wheat, corn, wheat, they had restored the soil.
They don't do that anymore.
And it was in about the 1980s when the powers that be, big food looked across the country and said, we've got 80,000 or 800,000 acres of soybeans out there.
We could be eating that. Let's do something with that. So we ended up with these crappy things with all this junky soy in it, in terms of our food products. We've got depleted soil because we don't mineralize it and all the stuff, the chemtrails or whatever out of the air.
We, and the manufacturing processes, process everything and put all the food additives and things in it.
And I've long said, if you're reading a label on a box and you can't pronounce it, you probably shouldn't eat it.
And so it's, so with all of those things that we call food in air quotes.
How can you possibly be getting the adequate amounts of vitamins and minerals and nutrients out of the stuff that's supposed to be your medicine?
You can't.
And so you really do need to supplement and take a really good quality multivitamin.
There's other types of nutrients. There's a long list of things that you take according to various different conditions that you take.
So I really believe in, when you learn when you're in medical school, and you learn in biochemistry, the Krebs cycle, which is how you turn your food into energy, those intermediate steps of that Krebs cycle, there are vitamins and minerals and things like coenzyme Q10 that turn the crank.
So to think that it's stupid or that it's not relevant, or it's just a scam for people to make money, That means you don't know anything about nutrition and you know probably even less about biochemistry.

The other thing on health security, I think, and we're certainly seeing here in the UK, I assume you are in the US as well, is massive waits to see doctors.
And it does seem to be killing people, people on waiting lists for a massive amount of time.
I know I phoned up with one of my children and I had phoned on and then was given a survey, had to fill in the survey, and then someone contacted me to go through the survey, and then I was put through to talk to someone who could then maybe make the appointment to see a doctor.
It used to be so much simpler. It used to phone up, I'd be able to see someone.
But I guess it's the same in the US, and that's putting a huge strain on a health system, which really should be there to look after the individuals, patients, the population.

Well, see, Peter, I have a little different view of that. I think that that's a good thing.
I think, you know, unless you've got a broken bone, you're bleeding to death, you have blood in your stool, you have, you know, been vomiting for days and you're dehydrated.
I think that people should learn to take better care of themselves and not abdicating some sort of care over to another human being in a white coat.
You know I've long said Peter that you know we get you get one body in this lifetime that's it. You know you get how many cars, how many houses, how many different things and we take better care of our cars and our houses than we do of our bodies and we think, oh the doctor should know the anatomy. Well humans could learn a little bit about their body and how to take better care of it and if you took that if you did that and you knew those things and you weren't so afraid because we've been we have the entire health care system, it's really not even a healthcare system, it's a sick care system, all based on fear and all on that that person over there called a doctor should know how to take care of me. Well maybe we should learn a little bit more about how to take care of ourselves.
There's lots and lots of books out there, you know, you may have to study a little bit, learn a little bit, there's websites, there's podcasts, there's all kinds of things that you could learn to take better care of this one thing you get for a lifetime called your own body. And unless you are really emergently sick, you know, I don't think that you really need to go to the doctor. So if the doctors become less accessible because there's a long wait for them, then maybe that should be a clue. Well, maybe I need to learn how to take care of these things myself. I mean, if you had to wait six months for a plumber to come to your house and fix your leaky faucet, you'd probably learn how to fix the leaky faucet, right? Or if you had, you know, if you had to wait for six months for an electrician to come and fix a plug, you'd probably learn how to go fix the plug yourself. Well, maybe we should apply that to our own situations, our own body, and our own real health care, instead of just abdicating that to someone else.

Yeah, well, personal responsibility does seem to be in short supply, Definitely.

Well said. But don't you agree with me that that is sort of how people, if you needed to wait for six months for a plumber, you wouldn't. You'd go out to YouTube, you'd go out to, go buy a book, you'd go ask your neighbour, do you know how to fix this? Teach me how to do this so so now I can do it myself.
I mean, you know, maybe that long wait.
Maybe that's not such a bad thing, at least for some of the lesser types of problems.

No, you're right. It is getting into thinking how our bodies work and not relying on a tablet, a medicine, an injection to fix it. Actually, what is wrong with your body? Think about how you look after yourself, health, food, all of that. And you're right, we've passed it over to to big pharma to fix this with medication.

Yeah, for sure. And that there isn't a single one of us that has a condition because we're drug deficient. Not one of us. Now, with the sole exception of maybe insulin dependent diabetes, or, you know that you really do need something, or you've had an organ transplant and you need something to stop the rejection, but you didn't get a sinus infection or a headache or a back pain or a cough because you were drug deficient. You know, you need to think more about health because we've been co-opted to believe that symptom-free in the presence of drugs is health. And that's just not true. It's been one of those, you know, great American and great medical myth number 793, that we believe that that's the way it is when it really shouldn't be.

Let me just pick one, as we finish, one other issue, one other topic on the five aspects of personal security, which was food security.
And you touched on this earlier. And I know for your Substack, you wrote about eating bugs and insects and this push from the WEF to this is now going to be future sustainment for the human population.
And you actually in your Substack go into it in depth with a breakdown of which are good and which are bad.
And what are your thoughts on that? Because it seems to be going against what we have believed as humans, that we have livestock, you have poultry, you have farming, and this is going to something completely different, which it seems to be pushed from the WEF.

The first part of that Substack and people could read it there was part one and part two I mean part for the first half of part one, you know, I talked about what people, what they're all saying about why this is such a good thing, you know that you you know you can have a pound of flour out of four to five thousand crickets and you know and it's more of a sustainability thing and you can have a cricket farm basically in your garage that you don't have to take up land. We don't have to deal with all those dirty farting cows that are contributing to global warming. We don't have to do any of those things, right? And that it's going to be so much better for us. And if you go out and you search for it, and you search for insect flower and edible insects and things like that, I'm going to say that unless you dig deep past the second fold of say a Google search or a DuckDuckGo, your only thing you're going to find is all of the wonders of why it's so wonderful to eat bugs and worms.
So the first half of my Substack sort of talks about why they think this is so great.
And then the second half of the Substack is, well, wait a minute, not so fast.
I mean, bugs have parasites in them. Bugs have insects and viruses.
Bugs, depending on what the bugs eat, will bring pesticides and all sorts of bad things to you.
And that's one of the things they do talk about insect farming is that, you know, we have to feed the insects good stuff. Well, if insects are out in nature, do they differentiate between good stuff and bad stuff? They just eat. And so we don't know. And now there's this whole thing about insect poop, about cricket poop. And what are we going to do with the poop? And actually you can find cricket poop in jars for sale on Amazon because there's so much cricket poop now.
And you can put it into your garden. I mean, we don't know what the long-term ramifications are of eating large quantities of this. And part of what their sustainability thing is that there's about 1,900 edible insects that have been identified globally.
And we know that some populations like, say, Southeast Asia and maybe in the African Congo and in the Amazonian basis, where the protein is from the worms and the maggots and the crickets and the bugs that they eat, but they're eating them fresh.
It's like eating, picking a tomato off the vine. It's not that they're processing them and chemicalizing them and then putting them on shelf somewhere. We don't know how long the shelf life should be. We don't know how much you should eat of this every day when it's been processed. There's a lot of unknowns that they're just sort of like when I mentioned this stuff appeal, you know, this A471 or E471, they really don't know much about it. They just started using it. So now we're doing this big thing to try to eliminate cattle and sheep and chickens and free range eggs and all the things that we have been used to eating, and they're kind of literally shoving the bugs down our throat. And I really think that people need to be highly cautious of it, and read the package inserts, and choose wisely. I mean there's now restaurants, there's one of the websites that I that I cited in that article, there's now restaurants popping up all over the world that are like insect things, insect everything's, like insect desserts, and insect coffees, and insect, insect alcohol drinks and insect flour that they, I mean, seriously, we need to stop because we have no idea on what that means to our bodies, to our own microbiomes, to what's happening to our gut.
What happens when we poop out that stuff? What does that do?
You know, and what does it do if you have composting and you're putting, you know, the compost into your garden and you've got crickets, cricket flour.
I mean, there's so much we don't know that they just are deciding that this is what's good for us We need to do it.

I enjoyed both parts, and the cricket poop was the thing that really stuck in my head.
I did click through that link on Amazon. I did see it, but I didn't purchase it.

Isn't that interesting? I mean, seriously, that they've got bottled, encapsulated, cricket poop for sale in a jar somewhere. Crazy. Crazy, crazy.

Someone needs it, maybe. Very final, thought was I'm always intrigued as a Christian myself, people talk to me about what's happening and the confusion and chaos in so many areas, and I tell them, well, my certainty and confidence comes from, as a Christian, my belief in the Bible.
And you also bring that out very regularly. Maybe we can just finish off on why that gives you, I guess, confidence and the ability to face everything that you do face.

Well, I got started verbally, really. You know, I made a big, big, big recommitment to the Lord.
It was actually 1-1-2020. I was in an airplane coming home from St. Thomas. I'd met some people down there that really inspired me. And, you know, I'd grown up in a Christian home but had not been a practicing Christian at all. And had some things happened in the middle of 2019 that I could just feel God sort of like thunking on my head, hey you, hey you, you know, sort of thing.
And I made a big commitment, Lord, I'm all in, a hundred percent in, whatever you want me to do, wherever you want me to be, whatever you want me to talk about, that was 1-1-2020.
And then COVID comes March of 2020, so I guess the Lord kind of knew why he'd been thunking me on the head, right, to get busy.
And then it was about June of 2020 that I was talking to Michelle, my assistant, and I said, this is so dark, it's just so dark.
And she said, well, why don't we do a happy hour?
And I think she meant more like, let's get together and have a glass of wine.
But my idea of a happy hour was, let's talk about God.
Let's talk about the Bible. Let's get together and study. And so we did.
And so for five nights a week, and the verse that kept at me, Peter, that kept at me that may be,
that just the Lord was just the Holy Spirit was just working on my heart was the verse that said that when Jesus said, if you will not declare me before men, I will not declare you before my Father in heaven. So it's like, well, I guess I, I don't know. Am I qualified to do this God?
And then when you read over in, I think it's in, in first Corinthians where they were, or maybe it was an axe where they said, when he said, when you get pulled before people, don't worry about what you're going to say, I will tell you what to say. So when I started writing my Substacks and started doing it. We do Substacks now. It's called Happy Hour with Dr. T.
It's two nights a week on Tuesday and Thursday nights. And then my Substack on Sunday is on Walking with God. It's like you just get quiet in your spirit and say, Lord, what do you want me to talk about? And something just comes. And he said in the Bible, it says, when you get called, don't be afraid of what you will say. The Holy Spirit will give you the words of what to say.
So you just have to trust that. And you know that right now everything that's happening, everything that's happening is, you know, the Ephesians 6 warfare, right? That we are not fighting human beings. We are fighting powers and principalities of this present darkness.
So we've got to fight spiritual with spiritual. You can't fight spiritual with guns and bullets, you know. So I think it's just important to encourage people that are Christians to be brave and bold in your faith. If you're a fence sitter, well, now's the time to get off the fence and get in the game and really be bold and brave for your Lord.
You know, I don't think that, you know, when we look around at the satanic stuff that's like at the Super Bowl and there's a new play out on Broadway that's just so disgusting.
It's the last, I don't know if you've seen it or seen any of the pictures.
It's the Last Supper from a satanic perspective. And they have Jesus dressed up as a transvestite, transgender person.
And I mean, those people, I would not want to be in their judgment seat, you know, and the people who are actually going and watching it.
And so we are fighting, you know, that was the other thing, Peter, and I'll just conclude by saying this is that in March of 2020, when I looked across at that television, I said, Oh boy, we better get busy.
You know, I, in my spirit, it was like, this is Satan's last hurrah.
I mean, we're coming down to the final ending here, whether it's a week, a month, five years, ten years, however long it is, because the Lord Himself says, no one knows except the Father when the final days will be, but you will know by the signs. And what signs are we looking for? The signs that, as in the days of Noah, of how bad it was. And we are there. And so the other thing was, we Christians better get busy. We better get busy, because the satanic forces, the evil things on this planet. They are working 24-7.
They don't give up for one minute. From everything, from your Bud Light beer can, to your television commercials, to every single thing you pick up, is about evil.
And so if we're going to be Christians, then we better step it up and get the church back where it belongs, get His people back where it belongs, and to be brave and bold in what God tells us to do.

I think it's a perfect end to end on a hopeful theme and a call to action for those watching.
Dr. Tenpenny, thank you as always for joining us and sharing your thoughts.

Thank you so much for having me. I really appreciate it.