In Episode 081, Trev and AJ chat about AJ's budding computer consultation startup, and Trev's first face-to-face encounter with M.I.T.T. — and (spoiler alert) the rabbit hole goes kinda deep. Then they sit down with Mad Men actor Darren Pettie for the second part of their chat about his unlikely journey to Hollywood, and how he keeps on keeping on. Total running time: 51:05.
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